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RE: kudos yáll -
12-12-2001, 03:50 PM
***there’s a nice polemic going in this thread. everyone thinking and trying...
muramati (and anybody else who was thinking it),
please be under no illusion that that i hold the answers to all these questions. i’ve been wrestling with them all my life and continue to do so. these threads are amazing growth for me...
>1. what is your definition of the 'meaning of life'?
i still don’t know for sure. i think it’s paying back debts then everything else falls into place. (sorry...)
>2. what are your fears?
i’m having a big problem balancing my spiritual life with what is supposed to be my ‘regular life’; and this includes all the people and things in that regular life. and i’m afraid that i may not find that balance, and lose out on a lot of happiness. and then, i’m afraid i’ll wake up one day and find myself in a grungy life and realise this was all a dream.
>3. what do you plan to accumulate before you die?
for me, it’s less an ‘accumulation’ and more a ‘cleaning up’. i want to clean up as much ancestral and personal debt as i can, as fast as i can, before i die. if i’m coming back after this lifetime, i don’t want to start a new one knowing there’s a whole bunch of stuff i still have to overcome. that’s why i try to learn, do my sacrifices, kill my ego, be kind, and keep my relationship with god ‘clean’. and it goes without saying that the more i clean up, the more wisdom, peace and happiness is given to me.
>4. how do you plan to accumulate it?
i keep praying to the spirits asking them not to leave me to let myself down. to interfere when they think i’m getting carried away. i don’t manipulate stuff anymore. i give stuff up to them and just go about my day to day activities.
>5. what is your definition of 'love'?
love is ‘all good’. just being real. egoless-ness. being kind. i like what solomatic said about it being that nice space between people and things.
>6. why are you here on this planet?
to figure out how to get out and not come back.
>7. who are you?
an immature spirit that has to get over a bunch of issues. but one that’s going to succeed because i have all positivity backing me up and rooting for me at the finish line. i can’t fail.
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RE: kudos yáll -
12-12-2001, 04:42 PM
manze kazi mingi!! had to check in to see what's up. solo i have a small sis outside lando and if you prove not to be a psycho, maybe i'll introduce you to her.
these questions i'll go home and think about, then read a bunch of deep books and come back and plagiarise.
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RE: kudos yáll -
12-12-2001, 05:38 PM
i thought it was just me feeling the 'love' in this thread but i see jjs has acknowledged it too.
solo: there is nothing you said that is less profound than what i said OR there is nothing i said that is 'better' than what you said. look closely they are very similar. everyones response is very valid and meaningful AND has taught me a thing or two. and not the least bit because we are sharing some of what trully matters...ourselves, without the personality contests without the fear of looking silly or being rejected.
i honestly could not answer 2,3 and 4 right now but i am thinking about them. as soon as i 'get it' i'll share.
thanks to ALL of you...those who have managed to post and those who are still on the sidelines thinking about it. i would also like to hightlight some thoughts that have hit home for me...
from Muramati:
"Actually, the more I think about it, i cannot tell you the meaning of life. I stop at that point where I know there is a divine purpose for most of the stuff that happens to us."
from Solo:
"2. what are your fears?
solo: being 'stuck'. knowing there's something better, more liberating, and more peaceful out there and not knowing how to get it. getting married just to get married. never having a true friend. realising ten minutes before i die that everything i thought was true isn't."
from Felicity:
"4.How do you plan to accumulate it?
By following the basic rule that states.. No harm or hurt to anyone including myself. This includes thoughts, deeds and words."
from JJS:
">5. what is your definition of 'love'?
love is all good. just being real. egoless-ness. being kind. i like what solomatic said about it being that nice space between people and things."
i liked that too...
and i look forward to reading more (supaj did you hear that?)- your last post cracked me up.
i like this alot.
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just wondering -
12-12-2001, 11:05 PM
I am one of those people who have been reading the thread rather keenly and the only questions i have to all ie solomastic, jujusis, remedios, supajack and if i've missed anyone else please forgive me is
1. how would one start exploring more about the african religion
2 if i chose to go through that route would that mean that i would have to abandon my christian faith and the reason why i ask this is because i am on of those people who can not be classified as a strong christian but i do believe in the existence of a higher being. how else could you explain the magic that is life
3. does each practice vary from one tribe to the other or does that factor not matter (which in a way should if we are supposed to be honoring our ancestors , that makes it specific)
4. as a young kenyan living abroad, how has your faith or lack of it affected your daily decisions
and last is a scenario:
my younger sister was approached by an indian woman while she was still in high school , the woman called herself mother nature and used to sit with my sister and her friend and would teach them to do simple things which to them sounded so cool at the time , they could grab some earth and as she told me ,they would chant and a small seedling would grow off the palm of her hand ... this woman could even chant and suddenly butterflies would surround them. now they made some kind of a pact to form a group of some sort.(which i suspect was a circle of witches and btw this was in kenya and this is one of the most prominent private schools in nairobi) she threatened them that should they leave this circle, all their fears would become a reality. now 2 yrs later, i return to kenya to visit at that time i called myself a strong christian. my sis could not stay in the same room with me. she would lock her self in her room and chant all night . when i finally approached her she told me about it and even invited to me chant with her .i had to tell my big bro who is saved and he made it his personal mission to stop that "foolishness" eventually she stopped but guess what a year after i returned to the US, all her fears became a reality. she lost her boyfriend, she became addicted to cigarrettes , is always failing in everything that she does and is depressed. what was she involved in and what is the difference between that and african religion?
any answer is appreciated
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RE: just wondering -
12-12-2001, 11:48 PM
Solo...too bad you have caught my analysis meter with your previous remarks in character analysis..ive never really read your posts but seems there is enough garbage here to work with..so hold up I entertain myself kidogo..more coming..
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RE: just wondering -
12-13-2001, 12:08 AM
..........................
< Mi$$ Thang tilts her head back and rests her neck on the back of her chair / stares @ the ceiling (daydreaming), - as she rocks back and forth on her chair / her mind ponders @ the deep questions JujuSis has just posed >
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@ this exact moment & time? I DONT KNOW! - would be my answer to all those questions.
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RE: just wondering -
12-13-2001, 12:11 AM
Just changed my mind. The character analysis is classified ;). PS: one thing I would like to point out though is that your relationship to these two characters; remedios and jujusister raises eyebrows...three possible leads are:
- You are one and the same person
- You belong to the same cult
- Real life friends whom you hope to have a
romantic relationship with ( secretly or maybe it is obvious)
The names almost all bounce out as belonging to the same niche..
anyways im out..
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RE: just wondering -
12-13-2001, 05:59 AM
LOL........merc chick why oh why do you want to disrupt the "love" in this thread?
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RE: á few rúminations -
12-13-2001, 06:06 AM
JJsis,
I understand that no-one can have all the answers. Nevertheless, I appreciate the sincere reply. That includes everyone who has responded and to those who are reading in silence.
Someone I know suggested that we are created with a free will so that we can voluntarily learn to love God. I think there is a lot of sense in this statement but I dare not call it definitive.
Remember, We are fearfully and wonderfully made.
M
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RE: just wondering -
12-13-2001, 09:08 AM
mercedesk,
let it go.
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