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Old 29th October 2009, 04:50 PM
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Well, people in olden times didn't live as long as they do today.
Homosexuality is older than Sodom and Gomorrah and the flood of Noah.


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It wouldn't be too far-fetched to place the average lifespan at about 40 years.
Homosexuality doesn't begin past 40 years of age.

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Nowadays, people are living until their 80s-90s,
Living past 150 years was common in pre-historic times.

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but they're still getting married in their 20s and 30s on average, and experimenting with sex during teenage.
At around the dawn of AD, marriage at 13 years was very common. The mother of Jesus is rumored to have been 13 years when she got betrothed to Joseph.

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One consequence of longevity is that marriages can now be expected to span five or six decades.
It was longer than that in antiquity.

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At this rate, many people are starting to question whether monogamy is outdated.
Monogamy is very recent in almost all cultures.

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However, that's not the reason I'd attribute to the lack of queer traits in olden times.
Homosexuality (e.g. queer traits) has never lacked.

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It wasn't there because neither sex was attracted to the same gender as much, to desire marriage with them.
The queer traits preserved marriage for heterosexuals but were queer all the same. For instance, we still preserve the term marriage for "adults".

Why can't six day old babies be given into marriage? Just a food for thought.
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Old 30th October 2009, 03:04 AM
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I have been struggling to make sense with this Father Muli nonsense... I can now rest in Peace!
oowiti you're being a tad bit melodramatic there. lol. fr muli is just a bored man who was looking to be in the papers for a day.
i second teejay's post. and also ATLian's and JD's.
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One consequence of longevity is that marriages can now be expected to span five or six decades. At this rate, many people are starting to question whether monogamy is outdated. Swinging and polyamory are just a few lifestyles being practiced by mainstream couples. Where do we draw the line? Is there a line?
of course there is a difference between having multiple heterosexual partners and having a homosexual partner. otherwise how do you explain the fact that our people practised traditional polygyny but can't stomach homosexuality?
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Well, people in olden times didn't live as long as they do today. It wouldn't be too far-fetched to place the average lifespan at about 40 years. Nowadays, people are living until their 80s-90s, but they're still getting married in their 20s and 30s on average, and experimenting with sex during teenage.
my grandparents and backwards for 6 generations lived to their 70s and beyond. it is current generations that have shorter life spans in africa. because of the diseases, malnutrition and out-of-reach healthcare brought by the modern lifestyle. if in doubt, look at this map. the average life expectancies for subsaharan africans are in the 50s and below. so, according to your friend's theory, homosexuality should be non-existent on the continent. not gaining in popularity: http://www.easypedia.gr/el/images/sh..._world_map.PNG

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Old 30th October 2009, 12:12 PM
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Romans 2:1-2 new century version
'If you think you can judge others,you are wrong.When you judge them you are really judging yourself guilty,because you do the same things they do.God judges those who do wrong things,and we know that his judging is right.
This message is for father MULI.
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Romans 2:1-2 new century version
'If you think you can judge others,you are wrong.When you judge them you are really judging yourself guilty,because you do the same things they do.God judges those who do wrong things,and we know that his judging is right.
This message is for father MULI.
That is not the contextual application of that verse my friend.

The Judgment being talked about here is Condemning another person to death, which was common in the Jewish society of the time, owing to the influence of the Mosaic Law of the Old Covenant.

Pointing at another person's sins does not amount to that kind of Judging, because it is merely a way of cautioning the culprit to tone down on the vice and not threatening them with death.

Father Muli rightly pointed out at the sins of women, but his undoing is his selective rebuke. He forgot to highlight on the sins of Men, including Priests like himself who plough the rears of toddlers.
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Romans 2:1-2 new century version
'If you think you can judge others,you are wrong.When you judge them you are really judging yourself guilty,because you do the same things they do.God judges those who do wrong things,and we know that his judging is right.
This message is for father MULI.
I will quote a blogger in mashada below article who requestts an apology from Father Muli to women see below-



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