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Old 30th October 2009, 09:41 AM
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After reading your numerous posts, I am under the impression that you don't dislike Islam (as you portray), but love to debate any and all issues.
I really don't dislike anyone. I very easy going. You'd be surprised that I have very many Muslims friends.

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Did you ever see the move Great Debater? You should watch it,,,,I bet you would like it.

THE GREAT DEBATERS
Thanks for the insight I am getting down to looking for it. The problem is I hardly have time to watch TV.
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Old 30th October 2009, 09:57 PM
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It contradicts maths! 1+1+1 =3
3) It contradict intellectual, if there were three Gods then they wouldnt have same decision
4) It contradict fitrah (Naturally instinct), it is from the natural instinct that GOD is ONE.What was the reason that the Surah Mujadallah was revealed?
Muslims reject Christ, because He said He is God and Muslims deny what Jesus said and the multiple attestation of His resurrection. I am glad somebody in a cave all by himself six centuries later who wrote the Koran doesn't count.
In fact Muslims teach Jesus didn't die on the cross, without any evidence to support such a claim at all. How embarrassing that is for your faith. One way to reject the atoning sacrifice for the penalty for sin through His death on the cross by shedding the precious blood is to shut your mind down and say He never died. Perhaps if you say that enough times you might convince yourself as your mind blocks your inner spirit's sensitivity to unchallenged evidence in the prophecies of the Messiah, the New Testament accounts and early non-Christian writings.

The Trinity math is not 1+1+1=1 or 1+1+1=3 but 1/3+1/3+1/3=1. When you hear some say 1+1+1=1 just realize what they are saying that each Person is expressed as God, so God is 3 Persons. Jesus is fully God bodily. The Spirit is fully God in my spirit. The Father is fully God whom I pray to. See how that works? All 3 Persons make up the Godhead Who is Tripersonal. The Triune God is your Creator whether you like it or not. Throughout the Bible He reveals Himself by the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. He is relational within Himself and out of the abundance of His glory, He creates you in His image.
I don't believe the Holy Spirit is a god or a prophet. I do know the unholy trinity of Satan, the first beast (Antichrist) and the second beast (False Prophet) try to copy God's Trinity. That's why you called the Holy Spirit a prophet and a god, because the False Prophet tries to make himself great also and tries to mimic the Holy Spirit.
There is no evidence in God's Word to support the claims of Islam, so you can be confident 99+% of Muslims are going to Hell. There is always exceptions to the rules of course.
Believe in the One True God. And if you think Jesus is just a man, you shouldn't be following him.
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The Trinity math is not 1+1+1=1 or 1+1+1=3 but 1/3+1/3+1/3=1.
I can hear the apostles turning in their graves.
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I can hear the apostles turning in their graves.
Lmao. God in fractions.
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Teejay,
another one
11-year-old girl becomes mother on wedding day - People's Daily Online

This seems to be a worldwide issue and not Islam,,,what do you think???


(PS: I'm just bothering you in this thread because I know this is where I brought it up...no where else to post it and the thread is over)!!!
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You'd be surprised that I have very many Muslims friends
You are lying! No Muslims can be your friend! the text are clear.
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Teejay,
another one
11-year-old girl becomes mother on wedding day - People's Daily Online

This seems to be a worldwide issue and not Islam,,,what do you think???


(PS: I'm just bothering you in this thread because I know this is where I brought it up...no where else to post it and the thread is over)!!!
Indeed, Indeed. This is a worldwide issue, which we must appreciate is not only confined to Islam.

However, Islam bears a huge chunk of criticism owing to the fact that it is religiously permissible. The prophet of Islam is, in Allah's own words, a sublime example to the Ummah.

A while back when we were engaging our Muslims brothers on their prophets Marriage to Aisha, they insisted that Muhammad was only acting according to the traditions that prevailed at the time of his life. In my view this line of argument had two faults. First it meant that his Marriage was never divinely approved as he was under human peer influence. Secondly it also vehemently seem to be challenging his prophethood, because we know that a prophet only does what pleases his master and is not supposed to glue himself to earthly things, because his line of duty is purely spiritual.

Since Muslims always strive to rigidly do as Muhammad in the Sunna, it is only prudent to say that marriage to girls as young as Aisha is NOT a taboo in Islam world.

Back to the Bulgarian Story. I noted several things
  1. The writer does not mention any religious influence.
  2. The people (Boy and Girl) involved look to me like they were experimenting with life. Notice how the responsible man say he was scared because he had not planned for a child or even having sex.
  3. The Bulgarian Society frowns upon such issues. The 19 year Old man was facing a prison sentence of upto 6 years for having carnal knowledge of the 11 year old Minor. Also notice how the writer pens off.

    "Everybody seems to be against Kordeza and Jeliazko but what have they done wrong?"

    Meaning its a societal taboo.

Lastly let me say that Education also plays a significant role in enlightening people when it comes sex education. Sample what the 19 year old father says

"I haven't had sex education classes and I didn't know how to get pregnant. I'd never had a boyfriend and I'd never heard of condoms.
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You are lying! No Muslims can be your friend! the text are clear.
Are you telling me that this the mindset of all Muslims? That difference of opinion between them and non-muslims is enough stifle friendship?
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Indeed, Indeed. This is a worldwide issue, which we must appreciate is not only confined to Islam.

However, Islam bears a huge chunk of criticism owing to the fact that it is religiously permissible. The prophet of Islam is, in Allah's own words, a sublime example to the Ummah.

A while back when we were engaging our Muslims brothers on their prophets Marriage to Aisha, they insisted that Muhammad was only acting according to the traditions that prevailed at the time of his life. In my view this line of argument had two faults. First it meant that his Marriage was never divinely approved as he was under human peer influence. Secondly it also vehemently seem to be challenging his prophethood, because we know that a prophet only does what pleases his master and is not supposed to glue himself to earthly things, because his line of duty is purely spiritual.

Since Muslims always strive to rigidly do as Muhammad in the Sunna, it is only prudent to say that marriage to girls as young as Aisha is NOT a taboo in Islam world.

Back to the Bulgarian Story. I noted several things
  1. The writer does not mention any religious influence.
  2. The people (Boy and Girl) involved look to me like they were experimenting with life. Notice how the responsible man say he was scared because he had not planned for a child or even having sex.
  3. The Bulgarian Society frowns upon such issues. The 19 year Old man was facing a prison sentence of upto 6 years for having carnal knowledge of the 11 year old Minor. Also notice how the writer pens off.

    "Everybody seems to be against Kordeza and Jeliazko but what have they done wrong?"

    Meaning its a societal taboo.

Lastly let me say that Education also plays a significant role in enlightening people when it comes sex education. Sample what the 19 year old father says

"I haven't had sex education classes and I didn't know how to get pregnant. I'd never had a boyfriend and I'd never heard of condoms.
I just wanted to let you know that I saw your response and will respond to it later. Thank you for responding.

(very tired today...bad night sleep)

One other thing. Are you allowed to write in other sections of mashada?? If so, do you know anything about this??? Or anyone in this section that can give us any insight??

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In my view ....
Delusion of grandeur.
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