Is Islam a Cult or a Religion?

[Fulldoz]

Originally Posted by Ni_Diambo

I suggest we give Islam a one week break. We've pounded them enough. We should now turn our attention to Christian pastors who are 'hitting' children and their neighbors' wives.

What do you think Fulldoz and Mo_4?

Ni-diambo right now there is a newspaper infront of me,article about a pastor from a nearby church,for two Years he has been raping his own daughters,his big son 14year old telling the court,what he saw his daddy doing to his younger sisters,i cant even tell,its sickening not for faint hearted.and one thing about this psychos the are always oustanding in the community ama very good husbands.

[teejay]

Originally Posted by Fulldoz

Ni-diambo right now there is a newspaper infront of me,article about a pastor from a nearby church,for two Years he has been raping his own daughters,his big son 14year old telling the court,what he saw his daddy doing to his younger sisters,i cant even tell,its sickening not for faint hearted.and one thing about this psychos the are always oustanding in the community ama very good husbands.

Fulldoze, I don't think you Muslims can really put up worthy defence in support of your religion. More often that not, you guys fry you religion than enlighten us.

How do you ask a judge why he is sentencing you alone, when so and so is also a criminal!? where is there logic in such a response. Doesn't your accusations remain mere allegations until proven otherwise?

It is a fatal mistake I see most Muslims make repeatedly. Every time they are confronted with a question they are quick to lambaste Christianity, never mind that sometimes the person criticizing them is not even a christian.

That Pastor is raping her children in his personal capacity. He is not representing Christendom and neither is he setting an example worthy of being emulated within the fellowship of Christ. Besides he

[Ni_Diambo]

Originally Posted by teejay

That Pastor is raping her children in his personal capacity. He is not representing Christendom and neither is he setting an example worthy of being emulated within the fellowship of Christ. Besides he

That's a new one, teejay. Being a pastor is not like working at Wal-Mart, where after 6pm, you can remove that blue apron and assume "personal" status. A pastor is a pastor 24/7, at least as far as conduct goes. It's true, he doesn't represent Christendom, but he is supposed to. And that's where the issue lies.

Having said that, Muslims must address their own issues without using the failings of the church as a crutch.

[teejay]

Originally Posted by Ni_Diambo

That's a new one, teejay. Being a pastor is not like working at Wal-Mart, where after 6pm, you can remove that blue apron and assume "personal" status. A pastor is a pastor 24/7, at least as far as conduct goes. It's true, he doesn't represent Christendom, but he is supposed to. And that's where the issue lies.

I agree with you that shepherding the church is a round-the-clock job. My only concern is the thinly veiled allegation that Fulldoze made seeking to smear it against the entire Christendom, on the basis of sins of one individual.

In my view, that Pastor went against the teachings outlined in the bible. His actions must be admonished.

[PrivatePractice]

Originally Posted by teejay

I agree with you that shepherding the church is a round-the-clock job. My only concern is the thinly veiled allegation that Fulldoze made seeking to smear it against the entire Christendom, on the basis of sins of one individual.

In my view, that Pastor went against the teachings outlined in the bible. His actions must be admonished.

Teejay,
What denomination are you?

[PrivatePractice]

Originally Posted by Ni_Diambo

That's a new one, teejay. Being a pastor is not like working at Wal-Mart, where after 6pm, you can remove that blue apron and assume "personal" status. A pastor is a pastor 24/7, at least as far as conduct goes. It's true, he doesn't represent Christendom, but he is supposed to. And that's where the issue lies.

Having said that, Muslims must address their own issues without using the failings of the church as a crutch.

Ni-Diambo,
When I first joined mashada you were pretty anti-islam. Now a days I see that you have opened up to the religion. I am just curious, was that a mashada act or you have really changed the way you feel? If you have really changed the way you feel, was it in any way because of interacting with people (like fulldoz) on mashada?

Is anyone more religious sensitive due to mashada?
I know I am, especially with learning more about Islam.

(Oh, now I am derailing, should I make this a thread)

[Ni_Diambo]

Originally Posted by PrivatePractice

Ni-Diambo,
When I first joined mashada you were pretty anti-islam. Now a days I see that you have opened up to the religion. I am just curious, was that a mashada act or you have really changed the way you feel? If you have really changed the way you feel, was it in any way because of interacting with people (like fulldoz) on mashada?

Is anyone more religious sensitive due to mashada?
I know I am, especially with learning more about Islam.

(Oh, now I am derailing, should I make this a thread)

I am a Christian, but not one who follows blindly. That's why I can raise a thread to chambua the clergy when they start misbehaving. But I am also human, and I know what fairness is.

So, while I have issues with the Islamic religion, I realize that Muslims are human beings and also have a right to fair treatment. That does not, in any way, mean that my views on the religion have changed.

[PrivatePractice]

Fulldoz and other real muslims (not mohummer),

Here is another article for you, when they start attacking islam, due to child marriages.

ethiopia ranks among the top 10 countries for child marriage, according to the international center for research on women’s analysis of the country’s demographic and health survey data.

mothers of ethiopia part ii: escaping child marriage | east africa in focus

Teejay,
Can you explain this to us? why is this happening in ethopia and they are not Muslim Is it due to poverty by chance (like Fulldoz tried to explain before).

[teejay]

Originally Posted by PrivatePractice

Fulldoz and other real muslims (not mohummer),

Here is another article for you, when they start attacking islam, due to child marriages.

ethiopia ranks among the top 10 countries for child marriage, according to the international center for research on women’s analysis of the country’s demographic and health survey data.

mothers of ethiopia part ii: escaping child marriage | east africa in focus

Teejay,
Can you explain this to us? why is this happening in ethopia and they are not Muslim Is it due to poverty by chance (like Fulldoz tried to explain before).

Well, let me quickly say this.

When I talked about child marriage in Yemen, I clearly posted excerpt quotes from Religious people who cited the example of Prophet Muhammad's Marraiage to the 6 year old Aisha.


I also mentioned a Women's organization in Yemen which despite its efforts in stemming out Child marriage is faced with a daunting task of having their recommendations brought to the Yemenite parliament which favours Sharia Law. The organization's cause had already raised eye brows in the Islamic dominated parliament.

Coming to the Ethiopian Matter, we should first explore the possibility of a religious influence on the same, which I think is loudly absent here.

Therefore inviting Muslims to use the Ethiopian Issue as leverage to argue out their points is naught. There is simply no Christian approval of same.

[PrivatePractice]

Originally Posted by teejay

Well, let me quickly say this.

When I talked about child marriage in Yemen, I clearly posted excerpt quotes from Religious people who cited the example of Prophet Muhammad's Marraiage to the 6 year old Aisha.


I also mentioned a Women's organization in Yemen which despite its efforts in stemming out Child marriage is faced with a daunting task of having their recommendations brought to the Yemenite parliament which favours Sharia Law. The organization's cause had already raised eye brows in the Islamic dominated parliament.

Coming to the Ethiopian Matter, we should first explore the possibility of a religious influence on the same, which I think is loudly absent here.

Therefore inviting Muslims to use the Ethiopian Issue as leverage to argue out their points is naught. There is simply no Christian approval of same.

After reading your numerous posts, I am under the impression that you don't dislike Islam (as you portray), but love to debate any and all issues.

Did you ever see the move Great Debater? You should watch it,,,,I bet you would like it.

http://www.thegreatdebatersmovie.com/