[okiedokes]

Originally Posted by grip_daddy

Don't think your endless endeavors to address me by refraining from quotating my posts fulfills your "UNWRITTEN" agreement. No it doesn't unless your reasons are so shallow.

Back to the thread, a woman who is educated and works at home is doing a better job than her who thinks that being an equal provider increases her esteem. It requires more of self love to gain contentment in a despised lifestyle, than to find that contentment in a changing world.

The world is changing where they that retain ethical values, self dignity, respect for others, empathy for the afflicted, are minute and viewed as ignorant.

Following the majority for the sake of it is so idiotic. Why would making your own money be seen as a better alternative? Because of misdefining priorities.

That's a rather one-dimensional view, don't you think? It's like a woman who works outside the home is definitely inadequate at home. Why don't you try looking at women who work outside the home, and are still good mothers, handle their homes well?

My mom has always worked outside the home, yet I don't recall a time I ever felt neglected or went hungry. Mind you, she had the same working hours as my dad but she adopted some strategies to make things easier for her on week days.

There are many ways to go about it. e.g cook the soups, beef, etc on the weekends and put them in the freezer. During the weekdays all you have to do is fry some little tomotoes, onions & spices(to "revive" the flavor) then add to the frozen soup. Then make whatever goes with the soup on the same day the meal will be eaten. How hard is that? A man who loves his wife will do everything to help make her day easier.

It is no secret that a lot of mothers made sacrifices(at their expense) for their husbands and a lot of it didn't turn out good in the end. That is one thing I do not hear the men in this forum talk about. It is almost as if all men will just be great, spare me those bollocks! I am yet to hear an african mother nowadays whose daughter is educated ask her to stay home and play house. The mothers are even suggesting to their daughters to further their education, and a good man will come when he comes. It is no rush and if you think of it, there is no use rushing too quick into marriage when 50% of marriages in north america end in divorce.

We are too consumed with tradition, societal 'norms', with most men pushing the agenda that puts these extra pressures on women to be "perfect". These 'norms' make no provision for men to uphold high morals and ethics, and respect their wives or women in general. There are no stiff consequences in "tradition" when men maltreat their wives. So like I say to anyone who mentions that word "tradition" the day tradition makes provision for men to be held accountable for their actions, then i might consider it". Until then, to hell with it. What is it going to take for some men to just respect a woman as a fellow human being?

[kwm]

An idle mind is the devils workshop, why would you waste your wife's resourceful brain, by telling her to stay at home and look all beautiful you are inviting the shamba boy/watchman to saidia u pale pale.
Afteral, why did her parents send her to school???

Come on guys, this is the 21st century.

[okiedokes]

Originally Posted by kwm

An idle mind is the devils workshop, why would you waste your wife's resourceful brain, by telling her to stay at home and look all beautiful you are inviting the shamba boy/watchman to saidia u pale pale.
Afteral, why did her parents send her to school???

Come on guys, this is the 21st century.

Good question! There is still no guarantee that while she stays home "looking all beautiful", cooking, cleaning, and playing house, that he will be faithful, or not complain about other things. This is all about control, nothing more!

[grip_daddy]

Originally Posted by kwm

Come on guys, this is the 21st century.

21st century has not changed the biological anatomy and physiology of men and women, I wish it did.

About idleness, read from a poster who reasons that staying at home to nurture the family is more demanding than working away from home.

@Okiedekes, one time you say that house work alone is too much for a woman to handle, and another time you want me to get a woman who can also handle away from home work while performing just as needed at home. How now?

[Type R]

Originally Posted by kwm

An idle mind is the devils workshop, why would you waste your wife's resourceful brain ... Come on guys, this is the 21st century.

The home is not as dumbing as people make it out to be. There are various challenges in the areas of nutrition, psychology/sociology (home is where all the psychos in society come from - rapists, manic depressives, drug addicts). The house/garden are also potential areas for beautification, modernization with electric/electronic gadgets, esp in the areas of security and entertainment. Child-rearing is where more and more families are failing, that's another challenge. Gourmet cooking is not as easy as people imagine, esp if you've got health in mind. And of course, kama sutra books.

If I ever become a househusband (spell check does not even underline "househusband"!!!!) to a billionaire wife, I'd write books on any random thoughts in between diaper changes. I'd definitely become famous. Larry King would interview me from my kitchen. Don't many famous novelists work from home - akina Ludlum, etc.

Boredom is simply a product of a lack of drive.

[okiedokes]

Originally Posted by grip_daddy

21st century has not changed the biological anatomy and physiology of men and women, I wish it did.

About idleness, read from a poster who reasons that staying at home to nurture the family is more demanding than working away from home.

@Okiedekes, one time you say that house work alone is too much for a woman to handle, and another time you want me to get a woman who can also handle away from home work while performing just as needed at home. How now?

Grip, she will not be perfect obviously! Housework alone is too much for a woman to handle all by herself if she is not getting any help from her man. Mind you, there are exeptions to every rule. Some women can handle housework, and a demanding job too. They just will be overwhelmed sometimes.

[nat89]

Ester, that is one of the saddest things i have ever read just so you know.
I think that will be the biggest mistake of your life and you will regret it.
Book clubs, community stuff. . we dont do such stuff. .. what about all your goals? Will you just forget them?

[grip_daddy]

Originally Posted by okiedokes

Grip, she will not be perfect obviously! Housework alone is too much for a woman to handle all by herself if she is not getting any help from her man. Mind you, there are exeptions to every rule. Some women can handle housework, and a demanding job too. They just will be overwhelmed sometimes.

All in all, a woman who serves her family full time is happier than her who tries hunting too. All stable families that provide "home is best" environment have their women at home. I got a number of testimonies.

[kwm]

Originally Posted by grip_daddy

All in all, a woman who serves her family full time is happier than her who tries hunting too. All stable families that provide "home is best" environment have their women at home. I got a number of testimonies.

and 90% of "estate gossipers" and "know-it-all's" are the brainy women who have been relegated to being house wives. I got evidence!

[grip_daddy]

Originally Posted by kwm

and 90% of "estate gossipers" and "know-it-all's" are the brainy women who have been relegated to being house wives. I got evidence!

Otherwise they would be practicing the vice at work. I live in an institution headed by a woman, and staff secrets are never safe.