[GATABS.]

My 2 cents on it is that we are living in a world where there's sooo much hurt that we take it out on the wrong people.We have become soo defensive that someone may actually love you but doesn't want to be with you coz you are simply an animal and this applies to both men and women.
Love does exist but it cant exist in a vacuum.To love,i need to be loved.We need to to do things that people in love do.Now its just a competition between men and women on who has the upper hand on things.
Love however does exist but for it to be real and be felt,we have to have not just faith but also logic.Don't give your heart to someone you know is likely to hurt you or who'll treat you wrong.
Lastly,love is a choice.We learn to love just as we learn how to get over someone.You'll be shocked that you already know your perfect match.It might be that guy that always has your back no matter what, that chic that goes out of their way to sooth you when you are low,your sister's husband's brother, your sisters pal, your secretary, the office tea girl who you get along with soo well,your gym instructor, your workmate,your mom's god child,your best pal....etc.You just need to look in the right places.

[juhakalulu]

Originally Posted by GATABS.

My 2 cents on it is that we are living in a world where there's sooo much hurt that we take it out on the wrong people.We have become soo defensive that someone may actually love you but doesn't want to be with you coz you are simply an animal and this applies to both men and women.
Love does exist but it cant exist in a vacuum.To love,i need to be loved.We need to to do things that people in love do.Now its just a competition between men and women on who has the upper hand on things.
Love however does exist but for it to be real and be felt,we have to have not just faith but also logic.Don't give your heart to someone you know is likely to hurt you or who'll treat you wrong.
Lastly,love is a choice.We learn to love just as we learn how to get over someone.You'll be shocked that you already know your perfect match.It might be that guy that always has your back no matter what, that chic that goes out of their way to sooth you when you are low,your sister's husband's brother, your sisters pal, your secretary, the office tea girl who you get along with soo well,your gym instructor, your workmate,your mom's god child,your best pal....etc.You just need to look in the right places.

GETABS has finally said it. This is were the root of problem is. Me, personally thinks love doesn't exists, it's an imagination that is hard to achieve. like marriage, there is no subject in school about love.

[puss in boots]

i love love's allure but i guard my head and heart. Real love exists in fairy tales and movies, and in our poverty, disease and crime infested environments, we can only settle for brotherhood love but not BF love.

and another thing my bestfriend, Bless her, always says is, LOVE LOVE but dont love the man for you will be in his power.

[the C.P.U guy]

Love died loong ago,
How can someone say they love me, when i know that they started hinting that they are available because of the suit i wear, the shoes i put on, the car i wear, and the title i hold at my place of work? I certainly didn’t katia them. Why should i love such a lady? Why should i mistake her 'submission' as a sign of love when i know all that she is doing is 'stooping to conquer?' in other words coming after my money?

Why should i love when i know that after the birth of the first kid, i risk being sidelined, because the woman has gotten 'what she wanted all along' the baby. She will grow a big head, and will be disrespectful. After the second kid, it will be a miracle for you to talk in your own house, womans head is too big. Then they yap about being divorced! Ask married men, before u come yapping at me.

Why should i love, when Kenyan mamaz live fake lives 360 days in a year, snobbish, insecure, mindgames, gossipers,.

By the way, i believe evolution is at work in the Kenyan society. Those women who cannot 'attract a mate' courtesy of their anti-social behaviours will soon be an extinct species. Nature always propagates itself. So, this snobish 24 year old-i-think-i-look like-beyoncé will go into her 30's not having a man,(and if she gets one, he will probably leave her coz of her antisocial behaviors). so she gets a kid by 32.

All the while, her well mannered sister, is married in a stable home, raising two upright children. she got her first kid when she was 25 right after finishing her degree, the second when she was 27. 5 years difference with the sister above there. Husband loves her to death, stable family for 30years.

Example one, changes men after three years (think Jaylo), has four or five Jaylos by different men. after 30years, who will influence society? Yeah, the woman who had a stable marriage, and attracted a mate.

There is hope.

[kushungpeng]

Originally Posted by dotNet

From most of the threads we see in this section, its like most of us go thru a very hard time in relationships. Like most of us have really had it rough or are having it rough.

Where do you think the problem lies? Is it that we don't know how to show love? How to share it? Is it that most of us have given up on finding true love and are currently having 'fun' and not sharing love?

Does the problem lie in the society that we live in or are we just in hurry to get someone to be there and hence overlook some vital signs and later on find ourselves trapped in 'relationships' that need a new word to define them?

What is the problem?
Have we given up on love?
Do WE/YOU believe in LOVE?

dude sometimes we discover love when we least ecpected or wanted it to even happen.......4 sum pple i guess.but woe unto u if u r searching 4it desperately.take it easy na uta pendwa hata bila ku ask au ku tamani(kama wasee wengine hapa).4me love is the the master that am not so enthusiastic to being enslaved by.

[JINIKALI]

Originally Posted by the C.P.U guy

Love died loong ago,
How can someone say they love me, when i know that they started hinting that they are available because of the suit i wear, the shoes i put on, the car i wear, and the title i hold at my place of work? I certainly didn’t katia them. Why should i love such a lady? Why should i mistake her 'submission' as a sign of love when i know all that she is doing is 'stooping to conquer?' in other words coming after my money?

Why should i love when i know that after the birth of the first kid, i risk being sidelined, because the woman has gotten 'what she wanted all along' the baby. She will grow a big head, and will be disrespectful. After the second kid, it will be a miracle for you to talk in your own house, womans head is too big. Then they yap about being divorced! Ask married men, before u come yapping at me.

Why should i love, when Kenyan mamaz live fake lives 360 days in a year, snobbish, insecure, mindgames, gossipers,.

By the way, i believe evolution is at work in the Kenyan society. Those women who cannot 'attract a mate' courtesy of their anti-social behaviours will soon be an extinct species. Nature always propagates itself. So, this snobish 24 year old-i-think-i-look like-beyoncé will go into her 30's not having a man,(and if she gets one, he will probably leave her coz of her antisocial behaviors). so she gets a kid by 32.

All the while, her well mannered sister, is married in a stable home, raising two upright children. she got her first kid when she was 25 right after finishing her degree, the second when she was 27. 5 years difference with the sister above there. Husband loves her to death, stable family for 30years.

Example one, changes men after three years (think Jaylo), has four or five Jaylos by different men. after 30years, who will influence society? Yeah, the woman who had a stable marriage, and attracted a mate.

There is hope.

THE C.P.U GUY, go ahead and tell us that you pulled this analysis from a philosophy book and we will act like nothing happened. I will shake your hand so hard if we meet in a bar because, if what we are looking above is pure experience then, you are genius. Why do women love money and a man's possesion first? Why is it they create problems after the first child especially when finances are low due to time commited to the child? I do not believe in love and I know it's unattainable. If someone loves you so much, look on the other hand and there is something they are taking as much.