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Default Stay abroad. - 04-25-2008, 09:02 AM

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Ok..i dont know about gals,
what i know is that if u travel back home using KQ, they ask u to fill a ka-certain form like 30mins before touch down, on why u are 'entering Kenya'
its just alorof nansense.

When u get to JKIA, there are the checkpoints of E.African residents, and 'others'
u would think that being an e.african accords u more speedy processing! wapi! that line is so so so slowwwww


Haya, then u chomoka to the waiting bay and meet ur relaz, everyone is smiling and smiling and smiling, teh first time i was just too shocked, for once i felt like a celeb...

Nightmare number 2. Jam from airport to home...grrr..if u are used to intersections and speedy traffic, u gonna sleep!
If coming bac home is a nightmare, I suggest that it is time you consindered living away.
 
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Default 04-26-2008, 10:49 PM

close these thread it is too booring ....kama hujui kutongoza njoo tukufundishe stop making kenyans look so desparate yet you are a foolish kenyan cleaning toilets wherever you are located. Guys pride comes before a fall and mshenzi kama huyu anatuhaibisha. Go see for yourself how people are desparate in Asia then think twice before utapike nonesense. makende wewe.
 
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Default Differences - 04-27-2008, 03:37 AM

Dispite all the different point of views i think the entire thread was good.
 


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Default 04-27-2008, 07:30 AM

This is a very interesting thread, while reading Msesh, Pippy & acq ‘s accounts, I felt as if I’m the one who made that journey. I think ya’ll should try and not be so politically sensitive, because sometimes when one is trying to make a point here, they are not intentionally trying to be offensive, they just neglect the fact that on some issues one has to be politically correct. To enjoy the gist of the thread here one has to at least understand that people are contrasting two different sides of a cultural phenomenon.


Most of the replies are from jamaas who have come from abroad it would be nice to hear from females who have come from abroad, do men throw themselves at you? Nerimae is right, the frequency of HIV infections in Kenya grossly out do those in some western countries but by no means should we even assume that Kenyan jamaas living abroad are by any means best at being responsible. A lot of infected people get it through promiscuous husbands or other means not just careless sex. Back at home it’s not just a behavioral problem but socio-economic.


Anyway I am very wary of Jamaas abroad, and don’t favor any man according to where he lives. Here in Finland the entire country has like 2000 estimated cases of people with HIV only with the country population being 5.62 million. You find African men having unprotected sex on the premise that hakuna ukimwi. Even when the stats clearly show that many cases were from people who came from countries with a high HIV infection rate. A jamaa or chic will have a merry go round of sexual encounters without worry; you can imagine the domino effect if only one of them was infected. Infections aside.

My biggest worry about moving back home is the reverse culture shock, how people conduct business etc. A few weeks ago I was on the phone calling different places in Kenya and the reception was so bad I almost broke down in tears. I almost cancelled the whole trip, because I was over whelmed at the astounding possibility of not being able to cope with a different kind of stress. I’d try to get some service and I’d get a silly statement like “we only do this for Kenyans,” and I’d say I’m Kenyan and we’d go back and fourth with the person saying I don’t sound Kenyan wtf! And after they establish you are Kenyan, another air descends on the conversation; you almost find your self being apologetic for having lived abroad.


There was a secretary in a very big company (who may even be a mashadite) who replied my email and started with a greeting “Hallow! (like hallow be thy name) signed off with her nickname, several high ranking ones even addressed me in official emails by giving me a nick name in the first email. I don’t expect special treatment, but common courtesy and professionalism is hard to come by.

You need sensibility, and very thick skin to adjust to the Kenyan way of life.


Pippy your thread was very funny, esp about the girls who come to play with your nephews. I wish people would continue giving their experiences.
 


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Default 04-27-2008, 03:46 PM

After reading through this thread I remembered something..........
There's a phenomenon that happens when people across a variety of age groups living abroad travel back home.
Anytime they try to present an opinion on how something can be improved in the country, especially when this is coming from their experience abroad, or anytime anyone makes a comparison between abroad and Kenya that does not favour Kenya.....you are dismissed BITTERLY, even by your own friends, people you pray with etc etc
Personally, having been abroad for so long, I can't really say I know where that bitterness comes from, but if I were to be asked, I think somewhere along the line of communication the Kenyan receives such communication as someone saying:

"I am better than you because I live in a better place."

The worst thing being that almost every Kenyan, in their gut, believes that in a lot of ways abroad is much better than Africa and it hurts when someone from another country constantly reminds you of your weaknesses and what's wrong with the place (even though they were born there).

I may be way off on this one, so please share your opinion on whether you think am right, am wrong, there's something I've missed?

This is one of the most relevant themes-to me, anyway-I have read in quite a while.
 
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Default With American passport.....do you need a visa.. - 04-27-2008, 04:54 PM

My father passed away....I am thinking of visiting......do I need a visa.....
 
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Default 04-27-2008, 06:15 PM

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My father passed away....I am thinking of visiting......do I need a visa.....
Pole sana for your bereavement.

Yes! You do need a Kenyan entry visa if you intend to travel to Kenya with your American passport. It is the law! You can buy the visa at the JKIA.

However, if you still have your Kenyan passport intact & valid, you could use it to enter Kenya without a visa. But be reminded that this is illegal by Kenyan law if you are 21 years of age or older.

Normally nobody will bother you if you keep the whole matter of illegal dual nationality quiet and to yourself. Remember to carry your USA passport concealed somewhere for your re-entry back into America.
 

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Default ... - 04-27-2008, 07:59 PM

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Pole sana for your bereavement.

Yes! You do need a Kenyan entry visa if you intend to travel to Kenya with your American passport. It is the law! You can buy the visa at the JKIA.

However, if you still have your Kenyan passport intact & valid, you could use it to enter Kenya without a visa. But be reminded that this is illegal by Kenyan law if you are 21 years of age or older.

Normally nobody will bother you if you keep the whole matter of illegal dual nationality quiet and to yourself. Remember to carry your USA passport consealed somewhere for your re-entry back into America.
Thank you for the advice....
 
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Default Come On... - 04-27-2008, 11:54 PM

If you are novice or came to US as an 18 year old, or you were struggling a lot, then this is likely to surprise you.

But its common sense if you make some good advancement in life as a young man in Kenya, stocks will change.

I have been in the US for four years. I have more education now, etc and I go home often.

Nothing much has changed. I don't see people expecting me to buy booze more than they did before. If they invoke abroad, its in a friendly way not as a matter of responsibility.

If your friends are broke, then they are likely to ask for a favor. But most guyz go flossing to up their stake.

Do you have to say you came from abroad?
 
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