[Msoto]

>>
>>Some issues need more than one-liners and CAPS LOCK.
>>Pole lakini sometimes its good to exercise the muscles kwa
>>kichwa...its healthy.
>
>BECAUSE I'M USING CAPS LOCK AND I'M SIMPLYFYING WHAT I SAY
>MEANS THAT I AM NOT EXERCISING MY BRAIN?
>
>BY THE WAY, THE BRAIN DOESN'T HAVE MUSCLES, THE BRAIN HAS
>RECEPTORS THAT ACTIVATE MUSCLES SIMPLE BIOLOGY EVEN TAUGHT IN
>O-LEVELS MAY BE U SHOULD HAVE GOOGLE SEARCHED BEFORE U
>REPLIED

Not all phrases must be addressed as literally speaking. When saying exercises your muscles in your brain...i was figuratively saying that you should take the extra effort to read what has been written.

Congratulations.....perhaps you should replace some brain surgeons in kenya? Your expertise on google searching will be indispensable to them.

[MtotoTuto]

Truth is at the end of the day its between the two of you.What you have together is it strong enough to come out on top when u have to face and confront what is outside your circle,be it your parents ama what ever else.Your parents are worried and are within their rights as your parents to tell you what they think,they are not a decoration.Do u love him enough to be strong for both of you,what you two got is it strong enough?If not stop,end it and look elsewhere but if not tighten up and get ready coz Na Bado.

[patt]

it is always good to marry your own people. speak the same dialect. have same shags (ushago). similar traditions etc. but if fate gives you someone from a different tribe and you love the person to death, why should your parents decide who you should marry? if you are over 18, you have every right to make your own decisions which includes decision on the person you want to marry. if you truly love that jamaa of yours, you wouldn't be in mashada asking mashadites what they think. when you are in love, no one's opinion counts except your own coz you know how the person makes you feel and it's difficult to put it in words for outsiders to understand. all you can do to show how much you are into each other is jump like tom cruise on oprah.

tell your parents you are going to go against their wish just this once and what you need from them is support not opinions. take your boyfriend to them and let your parents get to know him as a person, not a tribe. with the changing world, things could be worse...you could announce that you are a lesbian to them....THEY'LL TAKE THE kikuyu ANYTIME

[kigeto]

The thing is that paros always have ur best intrests and even in their old fashioned ways they do have the benefit of experience both theirs and other pple's.Intertribal marriages esp wea cultures&level of involvement of extended family is very different can be a very stressful situation.Remember u can not isolate urselves and wen u marry a person u marry their family too.However I think their concern could be the fear that he cud abandon/neglect u as he relentlessly pursues wealth(as is the stereotype).Ur paros nid to give u concrete reasons why they think u guys r doomed then try2 b objective and see whether they have a point.

[Akhenaten]

@Kenyan Chic

The political melee in Kenya today has dented my chances - if folks caught wind of my delightful escapades with a Luo lady, I'd probably get relegated from the inheritance. However have you ever been with those cling on types whom you loathe? Imagine being married to one. I'd rather be with the person I love than bow to the foolish tribalism culture Kenya is neck deep in.

Name's Akhen aten - after an Egyptian Pharaoh of course.

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[Proletariat]

If you want to place hot coals on your head, marry somebody who is not from your tribe.

Your parents got it right, and they can see things you cannot see now, since for now what might be driving you is high expectations of marriage.

Unless this is last option you have, don't do it.

By the fact that you don't speak the same language, which makes everything in you and him, you are two different people.

By the way, what language will you be speaking, and what language will your children be speaking?

You can marry him. Inter-racial, and inter-tribes marriages have many problems, including irreconcilable ones, that 'intraracial, intratribe' marriages don't have.

Label me a racist, or a tribalist, but I can't marry somebody outside my tribe, and tribe is not enough, but somebody who is 'typically,' with all aspects, of my tribe.

I can't imagine speaking English to my wife and children.

[9thWONDER]

>If you want to place hot coals on your head, marry somebody
>who is not from your tribe.

Dumb arss stop reaching we made out fine...no actually pretty good, smooth sailing

[sosodef]

Majuzi,

You know i always drop lines that are real even though they hurt alot of these crazy folks.

From my own experience,inter-tribal relationships work just as well as same tribe marriage,in fact much better at times.I noticed there are very many Jengs who mary Kikuyu girls but heres the catch -so long as you both remain in the states or far away from both family opinion polls.When you marry a different girl from a different tribe and you are based outside the country,be prepared to hear some rumbles when you go back home thats for sure! Thats why its always so tricky!

But as far as i,m concerned,i think once you and your significant other decide to tie the knot, your parents can pretty much go and shove it!They were raised at a time when there wasnt much interaction among various tribes,when tribes generally focused on territory ownership and maintaining the status quo.Remember,there was never a country called Kenya before the colonial powers came to dictate to us who we are.After Independece when we just got our independece,we decalared Kenya a Republic and we basically never got to learn who our neighbours suddenly became.That caused alot of friction and suspicion amongst ourselves.So when these old folks talk to you about Such and such a tribe are crazy,they do it from a stand point thats completely irrelevant to us today.They failed to create the inter tribal cohesion they should have and instead created an atmosphere of suspicion and hate (trust me thats what most mashadites grew up on and you can see it stick its ugly head all over mashada)They say you cant marry a girl from another tribe,but when you mary one of your own from somwhere else,they say you still cant marry her coz shes from Nyeri!! I,m like What the F!!!!!!! its all stupid thats how i see it.

If you find love and someone who trully feels for you as you for her...marry that woman/man ,or for the those of us tribalists....just marry your mums siz!

[kemal]

ka your mama ako side yako utashinda. but if not, you are really in a difficult spot. Otherwise talk to mama to talk to dad and you are done. if they cant agree, you wount convince them. Question: do your parents respect you?this depends on your relationship with them.if you really respect them and they respect you, then they will also respect your decisions but you should be careful on approach. the much they can do is to advice you.please do not be hard on them;remember you will alwayz be and look a kid to them however big/educated you are.
goodluck!

[mugithimadness]

>dear mashadites...i have a question. As far as the future of
>a marriage is concerned do you think a marriage relationship
>that is made up of two different tribes has a poor future as
>compared to one made up of two similar tribes? Actually i
>guess to be more clear, do you guys think that a marriage will
>surely not work out because it is is made up of people of
>different tribes?
>Another question do you think that in the case of an
>intertribal marriage there are certain tribes that are more
>compatible ex. meru and kikuyu or kamba and kikuyu compared to
>maybe meru and luo?
>i am in a relationship that my parents think is doomed because
>i am kamba and he is a kikuyu... i just need to hear other
>people's opinions.
>
>


Sorry to hit you with this one but....your parents are Pretty shallow...we are waaayyyyyyy past the tribal factor...as we all are kenyans, triablism and marriage are very irrelevant....they really need to style up and realize these ain't the ancient days when they had arranged marriages from the same clansmen/women...and love had nothing to do with it.....Should it worry you that they think your marriage to this person is doomed...you got other things to worry about like do you really think it can survive external inteferences e.g your paros....and is what drove you to marry this guy still there....all said and done...be your own person,...you are somebody's wife and hence capable of making your own goddamn decisions and stick to them regardless of what your shallow folks think...get with it!

MM