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Old 23rd October 2009, 09:52 AM
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Why would i want to act naive when i am not?Just to get a hubby???Don't you think that at some point i will forget about my naivety and be the real me??What if you don't like the real me?Is it worth it to act naive just for you to dump my a.s.s because i'm not what you thought i am??

And why are men threatened by an independent woman anyway??That is something that gives me a migraine everytime i try to understand it.
Ask other men,,me i know how to handle "independent Women", iam not threatened.
Afwiti you should have started by congratulating me for telling you why men dont like to settle with women who are not shagzmondoz.
Iam preparing a list of Independent women here and i,ll release it in 1 week,s time so that you act on it if you are in it.
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Old 23rd October 2009, 10:25 AM
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Ask other men,,me i know how to handle "independent Women", iam not threatened.
Afwiti you should have started by congratulating me for telling you why men dont like to settle with women who are not shagzmondoz.
Iam preparing a list of Independent women here and i,ll release it in 1 week,s time so that you act on it if you are in it.
watu ni kusaidiana ama?
Hebu release hiyo list tuone.
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Old 23rd October 2009, 10:38 AM
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Hebu release hiyo list tuone.
iam consulting with my Lawyers first "Orengo and Co,Muite and Waruhiu advocates,Kiraitu and Co. and one Lawyer from here.
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Old 24th October 2009, 02:46 AM
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Lool fraglante, so its true you are a Lawyer.These questions?
Its one who is independent,because she is a victim of her own making,she doesnt attract a suitor because she is soo demanding, She does well financially,no problem with that, but the Problem is she wants to have a final say and turn tables on you..in other words the house ends up having two centres of power,thus fights come along and quarrelling every single day.
OK so we agree that a financially independent woman is not a threat to you (though in an unnecessarily long and winding manner. I gave you options, you could have simply said 1 or 2)

So what bothers you is a woman who is:
1)Not naïve

2)Who has an opinion and is not afraid to air it every once in a while.

Question now is. Why does it bother you? Do you prefer naive shagzmondo mamas because intelligence in a woman is too much to handle? Do you feel overwhelmed when you sense that a woman is perhaps smarter than you? Or do you feel defeated when a woman is on to your no good intentions with her?

Do you perhaps prefer shagzmondo naïve women because you can have your way with then and they will never question you? You can mess up your life and theirs but they will still follow your centre of power blindly?

Don’t be offended. Help me understand.
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Old 24th October 2009, 03:39 AM
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because intelligence in a woman is too much to handle? .
i cant stand stupid women for 5 mins, let alone a life time. Smart men will always get the smart women!....but thea are guyz who purposely go for the dumb women coz they think a stupid woman is easier to deal with...
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Old 24th October 2009, 05:09 AM
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Quarrelling and fighting is somewhat healthy,but not everyday.
i guess argument is aight but fighting and quarrellin,to me,it does not cut,i guess i'll b drained by it.
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Old 24th October 2009, 05:22 AM
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Advice to Kenyan men willing to settle!
Dont go for these uptown chics who act like they want to be equal with Men in all aspects.They roam about as "Singles" because they wont humble themselves,courtesy of tooo much Western Influence.
Western influence is causing African society decay,poisoning their minds,While every woman should be given freedom as a right,These Women are abusing it and thinking they should not be submissive to the man where submissiveness is required.
They call themselves "Independent", being misled by the ideology "What a man does,i can do better" "Hell crap!"
On the other hand Women from shagz are respectfull and pair up well with a serious husband,they know family values and wont go with this flow of ati "kuchanuka"...Chanuka pekee yako and you,ll stay single for life...wishing!
Men hate women who have "Ujuaji" tendencies and will only use them for sex then vanish with the equally stupid satisfaction of"I did it!"" thats also "Hell CRAP!" men.
It hurts but its the TRUTH!
1st of all,the only difference between uptown chic and shagz chic,to me is,just a name,they both want to be independent period,they both wanna have a say in the relationship they in and trust me,u earn respect bt not dictate....if u ask me wat i think or preffer ,i tell u wat,mama told tht 2income is better than one..........Dont hate on uptown gals like tht beside they are great in so many things
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I don't think there is any problem if the controlling independent women stay single. That way, they won't ruin anyone's marital life.

It's actually best if they stay single. For men who want to get married, don't complain that you can't get married to the wrong women. How dare you complain yet the right women are in abundance?
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OK so we agree that a financially independent woman is not a threat to you (though in an unnecessarily long and winding manner. I gave you options, you could have simply said 1 or 2)

So what bothers you is a woman who is:
1)Not naïve

2)Who has an opinion and is not afraid to air it every once in a while.

Question now is. Why does it bother you? Do you prefer naive shagzmondo mamas because intelligence in a woman is too much to handle? Do you feel overwhelmed when you sense that a woman is perhaps smarter than you? Or do you feel defeated when a woman is on to your no good intentions with her?

Do you perhaps prefer shagzmondo naïve women because you can have your way with then and they will never question you? You can mess up your life and theirs but they will still follow your centre of power blindly?

Don’t be offended. Help me understand.
Fraglante iam not offended,on the contrary,its you who sound offendedfrom your barrage of questions.And this is where the problem is..you living in Denial,When men go for shagzmondo chiks, they are doing because the shags ones are not "Know-it-all",When i say "naive" i dont mean they are not intelligent..hell nooo!..They are but they understand when it comes to Family, its not a competition of who knows what unlike your ilk.
Theres nothing like following "Centre of power" blindly,just look at the way Marriages used to work during our parents times,and compare with the high rate of Divorces,failed marriages..men cheating on their spouses and Vice versa, because one is tired of arguing and fighting Day in Day out (sounds stupid,but look around you,its happenning as stupid as you can call it)
You,ll still find a humble shagzmondo chick,who went to Uni etc but she makes a responsible Wifey than one from the City, naivety doesnt mean you are dumb!
Its not also a matter of "Woman being smarter" than the man..but it goes without saying, Women always feel they got to be equal with men,and they do it the wrong way,trying to be MEN instead of accepting to be led, we cant all be leaders even in Politics,we cant all be President.
they are painfull facts i know for you people..most mashada chicks aint Shagsmondo chicks anyway..but you should just accept thats the way it is, iam advicing my sisters,men get turned off by your antics and thats why you are wondering where are men who are Hubby material" and "Mr. Right"
The messenger has delivered the message.. Please read what JERRY D has said, it sums up everything.

BTW Frag.."Are we still friends after this,ama it has now ruined everything that was remaining?":
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Fraglante iam not offended,on the contrary,its you who sound offendedfrom your barrage of questions.And this is where the problem is..you living in Denial,When men go for shagzmondo chiks, they are doing because the shags ones are not "Know-it-all",When i say "naive" i dont mean they are not intelligent..hell nooo!..They are but they understand when it comes to Family, its not a competition of who knows what unlike your ilk.
Theres nothing like following "Centre of power" blindly,just look at the way Marriages used to work during our parents times,and compare with the high rate of Divorces,failed marriages..men cheating on their spouses and Vice versa, because one is tired of arguing and fighting Day in Day out (sounds stupid,but look around you,its happenning as stupid as you can call it)
You,ll still find a humble shagzmondo chick,who went to Uni etc but she makes a responsible Wifey than one from the City, naivety doesnt mean you are dumb!
Its not also a matter of "Woman being smarter" than the man..but it goes without saying, Women always feel they got to be equal with men,and they do it the wrong way,trying to be MEN instead of accepting to be led, we cant all be leaders even in Politics,we cant all be President.
they are painfull facts i know for you people..most mashada chicks aint Shagsmondo chicks anyway..but you should just accept thats the way it is, iam advicing my sisters,men get turned off by your antics and thats why you are wondering where are men who are Hubby material" and "Mr. Right"
The messenger has delivered the message.. Please read what JERRY D has said, it sums up everything.

BTW Frag.."Are we still friends after this,ama it has now ruined everything that was remaining?":
Ofcourse we are still friends…this is just a discussion and its okay to have different opinions.

Well, since you wunt answer my questions….you call them baggage of questions, I guess we shall never understand each other. This is one of those topics we can agree to disagree.

However, JD does have a valid point. If a man cannot cope with a certain kind of lady, no big deal. He should just let her be and go look for a shagzmondo to marry. As long as all 3 parties are happy, good for them!
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