What percentage of men cheat? and why?

[Me.On]

Originally Posted by Fraglante

Governor's issues aside, all men cheat. PERIOD.

The sooner we accept this, the sooner we learn how to deal with it.

Except Me— Of course!

Even in a three-some, we debate and lay out our plans before-hand.

And that ain't cheating! Is it?

[Fraglante]

Originally Posted by YB*

My dear, this is the bone of contention...Women seem to think that the male instinct can be switched off. Eti once you are married you will go blind and not 'see' beautiful women.

You hit the nail directly on the head! Male instinct is not changed by a ring on a finger.It never has and never will.Thats just the way it is and any assertion to the contrary is a display of ignorance or denial.

Men will notice beauty around them each and every time.Without fail.Some will act upon it, some will wish they could act upon it and others simply appreciate na kukula na macho. Making vows to a woman will not change this. Its by nature that they are polygamous. Those who used to chase after every skirt will not stop.Sio ugonjwa ati wataponywa na ndoa. Noooo.Some just get smarter at hiding it.

Define the cheating, then set standards against it - What might be a flirt, may be construed as emotional cheating, to another emotional cheating needs to run for some time with a particular person, and not 'party flirting'.

Exactly!

What a couple needs to do is set standards for each other.Thats why I talked of standards in the 1st place because what amounts to cheating for one isnt necessarily cheating to another.

Take your example of flirting:If this remains a grey area, then the man may carry on shamelessly because to him he is just flirting where as to the wife, he is cheating emotionally.Its all about standards.

[olukhanya]

Men cheat all the time and since they cheat with other women, women also cheat all the time, it is nature "silly".

[Fraglante]

Originally Posted by Ester

"Even the saint of the saint cheats?" Aii, that's crazy.

But I guess it goes back to what you said about what constitutes cheating. Stuff like one night stands are a no-brainer but what about the gray areas like texting, going out for coffee after work?

Ester, what business does a married/commited man have sitting his fine ass in a restaurant having coffee with another woman? What is that that he is texting her that he doesnt want his wife to know about? Whatever it is that he does and that he would not like his wife to know of is suspicious.

If he can do all those little sweet nothings with his wife's knowledge, then it doesnt consitute cheating. So again the ball is in the wife's court. It all boils down to STANDARDS.

If she allows him to have one night stands,to go on 'dates' with other women, to flirt etc,its all good.As I said, some women have high standards, others have low standards, others take whatever remnants they are brought home ie they have no standards.

As Nat and Nafusi see no problem in allowing their men to have other sexual partners,you have no problem allowing your man to go for coffe dates, send texts etc with other women.

As I said over leaf,my experience has shown me that ALL MEN CHEAT. Thats because my standards are high.Ladies with high standards do not let men get away with any form of cheating.They give their all, so expect nothing short of that in return.Simple

However, there is no need to make a big deal out of this.Everything is laid out on the table before hand.Action and consequence.No beating about the bush or sweating the small stuff.(IYKWIM)

The type of relationships most women envision where the guy is completely committed to her and the family, requires a man with solid principles which frankly speaking, is a rare find outside of Christianity. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't one-man for one-woman type of relationships a very Christian concept? No other religion that I know of advocates for this type of set-up. The male desire to conquer as many women as possible is just another lust of the flesh that Christians are equipped to deal with. The same way a man would want to become an overnight millionaire by the most pain free method of corruption, doesn't mean he'll do it even when presented with the opportunity.

Christianity ....*sigh* This is another story all together.Simply because the Bible teaches against cheating doesnt mean men will stop.The mind may be willing but the flesh is weak.They are JUST men.We all know that lying is wrong.That doesnt stop us does it?

Lets just say that a Christian will feel guilty for his sins and he will repent but either way he will sin.A non Christian will nonchalantly cheat for he doesnt know better.The only difference between the two is the conscience.

[Fraglante]

Originally Posted by Me.On

Except Me— Of course!

Even in a three-some, we debate and lay out our plans before-hand.

And that ain't cheating! Is it?

That’s actually quite funny.

As I said, my standards are high and that’s why I proclaim and continue to- ALL MEN CHEAT including you my dear.

Your girl friend sees no fault in you sleeping with another woman. Heck you can even go ahead and do it as she watches, for all its worth, she will even take your **** and guide it into another woman’s cunt!! All in the name of a threesome.

I on the other hand think that is utter debauchery!

[Jalejo]

Originally Posted by bible_reader

SC governor's career launched by wife he betrayed. When South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford cheated on his wife, he also betrayed his top political adviser.

First lady Jenny Sanford told the world in a statement Wednesday that she had sent her husband packing nearly 15 years after she launched his political career.

Mark Sanford apologized to her and their four sons at a tearful press conference where he admitted a yearlong affair with a friend in Argentina whom he had visited on a secret trip.

His wife said in her own statement later that she kicked him out of the house two weeks ago and asked him not to speak to her while she tried to come to grips with his infidelity.

Why do men cheat?Even at the expense of such a lucrative career.

ill tel u something, each and every man is primed to cheat from the moment he is born. weather one is married or not men will always cheat. infact the men with the most beautiful wives are the ones that cheat most. look at kobe, clinton etc. i wont be suprised if obama cheats on michelle, there is a very lovely lady hanging loose in the white house named desiree rodgers. time will tel. anyway, men are men and we r conditioned to test our game,,,men always want to know if they still got game and that pushes them to younger hot chics.

[McBush]

Where I live women cheat more than men.
Recent poll conducted by condom makers Durex revealed 40% of females cheat on lovers, compared to 34% of males.

Women cheat more than men | The Sun |News

[Devine]

Most men would cheat if they could, and there is nothing a woman will do to change that. In that split second moment, a decision is made, the mind is set on one thing. Whether he's Christian, Muslim whatever, character means everything. That stops him from going to the point of no return .

Ester u kid right. Ati Christianity will stop s'one from cheating? I've met pple who quote the bible like nonsense, preach up a storm, but they still step up to single gals with the wifey a few feet away. Remember King David, killed a man to have his wife n he already had 1000s of concubines...Your bf know's u n know's exactly what to say. I never go by what s'one says but what they do.

Frag, my experience has been the opposite, I've been around men of impeccable character who treat their women amazingly n so I expect that from men. But life has this funny way of teaching lessons .

[Ester]

Originally Posted by Fraglante

Ester, what business does a married/commited man have sitting his fine ass in a restaurant having coffee with another woman? What is that that he is texting her that he doesnt want his wife to know about? Whatever it is that he does and that he would not like his wife to know of is suspicious.

If he can do all those little sweet nothings with his wife's knowledge, then it doesnt consitute cheating. So again the ball is in the wife's court. It all boils down to STANDARDS.

If she allows him to have one night stands,to go on 'dates' with other women, to flirt etc,its all good.As I said, some women have high standards, others have low standards, others take whatever remnants they are brought home ie they have no standards.

As Nat and Nafusi see no problem in allowing their men to have other sexual partners,you have no problem allowing your man to go for coffe dates, send texts etc with other women.

As I said over leaf,my experience has shown me that ALL MEN CHEAT. Thats because my standards are high.Ladies with high standards do not let men get away with any form of cheating.They give their all, so expect nothing short of that in return.Simple

However, there is no need to make a big deal out of this.Everything is laid out on the table before hand.Action and consequence.No beating about the bush or sweating the small stuff.(IYKWIM)


Christianity ....*sigh* This is another story all together.Simply because the Bible teaches against cheating doesnt mean men will stop.The mind may be willing but the flesh is weak.They are JUST men.We all know that lying is wrong.That doesnt stop us does it?

Lets just say that a Christian will feel guilty for his sins and he will repent but either way he will sin.A non Christian will nonchalantly cheat for he doesnt know better.The only difference between the two is the conscience.

Hey no no no sweetie, I would never allow my man to go out on coffee dates, happy hour you name it; in the company of another woman,just the two of them. If it's a company-related event then sawa he's got my permission. On a side note, I also happen to know the kind of women he would be interested in if he was still single. Then there are those I jua he would not 'touch' with a 10foot pole. It would be nice, albeit impossible, to forbid him from having any form of interaction with other females for the duration of his life. But that level of outright mistrust would not provide the basis for a healthy relationship, now would it?Therefore, there are instances where I'll have to trust him and my gut instincts. Like I said earlier, whether or not flashing red lights go off in my brain will depend on the type of lady he's texting, calling, or completing projects with outside of the workplace. If she's hotter and more educated than I am, then those lights will be flashing like crazy. On the other hand, if she's a married, matronly woman then maybe not so much.

Anyway not all men cheat (emotionally, physically or otherwise), and my boyfie is a very good example. I mean, we've been dating for sometime and stuff like premarital s** or other would be no-brainers for most guys (in terms of making out) are still a big deal to him. My main point is not to defend him because even the most pious have fallen from grace. However, there are some easily identifiable traits women can catch earlier on during courtship that have the potential to save them from heartbreaks 20 years down the marriage lane. For example, if the guy professes to be a good christian but has no quabbles with sex before marriage, then run dear sister! That bugger is up to no good. He will cheat on you!

Another way to predict is whether a guy is liable to cheat is by observing the type of family he grew up in. If his dad had a mistress/es on the side, then the guy's prone to either follow in his father's footsteps or completely shun that lifestyle. Although the former is more likely in accordance with the example set by his dad.

[Devine]

Originally Posted by Ester

Another way to predict is whether a guy is liable to cheat is by observing the type of family he grew up in. If his dad had a mistress/es on the side, then the guy's prone to either follow in his father's footsteps or completely shun that lifestyle. Although the former is more likely in accordance with the example set by his dad.

Soooo true.

I'll say one thing about worrying that the other gal is prettier, more educated, more whatever. Usually doesn't happen that way. He's looking for those to have as a gf n marry. One night stand, side dish doesn't matter so long as they give up the goodies. If he is the cheating type that is, not that your bf is.