[east coast]

On this i will let experience speak for itself................barb ur appointment is still pending But as a matter of fact talking to my female friends i have also come to that realisation that most men are just talk and the ones that talk the moost can barely handle and satisfy a grown woman....i won't mention one here .............

[Waithera Cherono Akoth]

Originally Posted by moveon

If you wanna see an empty debe,just look between your legs!

oohhhh really?!! i didnt kno it was empty like dat., al have it chekd!!!

[Waithera Cherono Akoth]

Originally Posted by east coast

On this i will let experience speak for itself................barb ur appointment is still pending But as a matter of fact talking to my female friends i have also come to that realisation that most men are just talk and the ones that talk the moost can barely handle and satisfy a grown woman....i won't mention one here .............

thanks hun.., nw we talkin!!!!

[Alja]

@Barb, enyewe, the thread caught me vibaya... didn't even realise it was there untill I bumped into it just like that smelly rat in my kenja.. well, the rat denied me the weekend chance to know from one daughter of Eve if I know what I do in bed! And I hope bed here doesn't mean getting into bed and snoring!!

Kufunzwa na baba - My dad actually got surprised when he came to know I am no longer a virgin... and then he said like father like son, not so sure coz the guy has had many women in his life! I wasn't funzwad mabo zenye more the boys in the hood, but by a gal, na yeye alikuwa amefunzwa na mamake by default!

G-spot, ummm, I used to be pathetic on this! Kwanza would ask the gal "hebu nieleze your g-spot niguze and that's how kubaff I would be... don't ask how it is nowadays (lakini sijasema tu -exchange CV!)! ... But possibly as you said older guys could be better, I could add... just like wine, it gets better by the experience!

And... a good game has to have a build up and it takes two to tangle... tucheze pamoja basi

[barb]

[quote=Waite;707290]@barb,
This is a problem largely created by chics, and then they turn around and start complaining and blaming guys.


see when you say something waite the best thing to do is back it up, how do women create this problem?? i don't get it.....hypothetically if you and me get together and you suck in bed, how is that my problem or how did i create it?? guys are not listers in the bedroom, when you tell someone what you like, they end up doing what they think you like or what they heard women like.



This is a very tough discussion and sex is as individual as DNA.. for me for as long as my woman feels me, and she is happy and satisfied. You can write all the books in the world about sex and i wont buy.

I am yet to meet two women who have the same passions and desires in the bedroom.. So barb, take time and teach your man what you like, and learn what he likes.. and with that i believe good sex comes from a man who listens and cares enough to do what pleases her woman. One woman's sex god is another woman's masochist.

isn't it obvious that this is a guy who is one of the 30%, seriously if most guys had a perspective similar to this the number would be the other way around.


And what % of women can satisfy a man?

fisi_1, 99.999999% of men are sexually satisfied, you know why, because compared to a women's bodies men are not that complicated, and this also goes to show that women are also doing a something in the bedroom



@Barb, Pole your dude isn't satisfying you.Teach him how to drive your body.Having sex with married men in their 40's is a temporary solution but is a recipe for disaster in future when his wife finds out or your sexually naive guy knows.For heaven's sake,just teach him!!

dont get personal with me moveon.


moveon jus hushhhhhh it.., empty debes make the loudest noise.....,
i will say am still glad that barb is here to represent me wen am away,..,
gal .., we think aliiike!!! we need to donate our brains for some
experimentation!! i was telin u the atha day that most mashada dudes
are r bunch of losers building virtual worlds...,
pudesh this.,pudesh that...,
i double second that u men need to suprise women and stop braging ur
incompitences...,the best are the ones who jus shhhusshh
and let the actions do the work..., nyinyi ...,
empty empty empty debes!!!!!1

i wouldnt have said it any better wca, and if you look around you can easily identify the 'talkers'


Women expect men to have telepathy in all matters. This is very unfortunate, and is the cause of all such problems. If a man must listen, then the woman must speak.

agreed, but when you tell a man to do this he ends up doing the exact opposite, the information gets in one ear and goes through the next....


Its not just about a woman lying down and parting her legs and expecting bombs to start bursting in her wettness, no...she is an equal partner in the game. She should get down to it, advice him....and guide him to all her good spots, urge him on encourage him, sing for him, hold his bum more tighter, grovel i mean do something too.

i agree with you salutes, the bedroom should be a place a learning experience to the parties involved, both partners need to contribute in giving each other pleasure.

the point, barb you women all service men in the above categories, where you never give the men a manual on which category you want to fall in, why blame the men when they treat you as a whore today, when the first time he found you hawking your wares in a pub or you seemed to lead him to believe this:d


lemme get this straight coz am a lil bit lost salutes, do you mean to tell me that when women go to pubs to have a kick ass time they are said to be whores who are hawking their wares?? so that would mean that if i go to a club and a guy hits on, he thinks am a whore?? wow.....interesting.


On this i will let experience speak for itself................barb ur appointment is still pending But as a matter of fact talking to my female friends i have also come to that realisation that most men are just talk and the ones that talk the moost can barely handle and satisfy a grown woman....i won't mention one here .............


hi you, i'll never get tired of calling you a real man, you say at it is, and that's deep, abt that appointment....ummmh tutaona


G-spot, ummm, I used to be pathetic on this! Kwanza would ask the gal "hebu nieleze your g-spot niguze and that's how kubaff I would be... don't ask how it is nowadays (lakini sijasema tu -exchange CV!)! ... But possibly as you said older guys could be better, I could add... just like wine, it gets better by the experience!

lol , knowing how most shallow and assumptions most dudes are this days, alja, i wouldn't feel akward if a guy asks me where my g-spots is at, that shows me that he really want to show me a good time, that he is interested in my body and pleasuring it, so dont feel like you are a kumbaff.

70% of men know the bare minimum in the way of foreplay and that is to get a vagina wet, when its wet they think its time to go 'Humpty hump', 'whaam baam thank you maam', what they dont know that lubrication is one sign that the woman's body is preparing for intercourse, that is but one stage in the actual preparation, what most men fail to realize is that there is a big difference between getting ready and actually being ready.

[barb]

ways men fail in bed, take notes, all you casanovas..

1) not kissing first. Avoiding her lips and diving straight for the erogenous zones makes her feel like you're paying by the hour and trying to get your money's worth by cutting out nonessentials. A properly passionate kiss is the ultimate form of foreplay.

2) blowing too hard in her ear. Admit it, some kid at school told you girls love this. Well, there's a difference between being erotic and blowing as if you're trying to extinguish the candles on your 50th birthday cake. That hurts.

3) not shaving. You often forget you have a porcupine strapped to your chin which you rake repeatedly across your partner's face and thighs. When she turns her head from side to side, it's not passion, it's avoidance.

4) squeezing her breast. Most men act like a housewife testing a melon for ripeness when they get their hands on a pair. Stroke, caress, and smooth them.

5) biting her nipples. Why do men fasten onto a woman's nipples, then clamp down like they're trying to deflate her body via her breasts? nipples are highly sensitive. They can't stand up to chewing. Lick and suck them gently. Flicking your tongue across them is good. Pretending they're a doggie toy isn't.

6) twiddling her nipples. Stop doing that thing where you twiddle the nipples between finger and thumb like you're trying to find a radio station in a hilly area. Focus on the whole breasts, not just the exclamation points.

7) ignoring the other parts of her body. A woman is not a highway with just three turnoffs: breastville east and west, and the midtown tunnel. There are vast areas of her body which you've ignored far too often as you go bombing straight into downtown vagina. So start paying them some attention.

8) getting the hand trapped. Poor manual dexterity in the underskirt region can result in tangled fingers and underpants. If you're going to be that aggressive, just ask her to take the damn things off.

9) leaving her a little present. Condom disposal is the man's responsibility. You wore it, you store it.

10) attacking the clitoris. Direct pressure is very unpleasant, so gently rotate your fingers along side of the clitoris.

11) stopping for a break. Women, unlike men, don't pick up where they left off. If you stop, they plummet back to square one very fast. If you can tell she's not there, keep going at all costs, numb jaw or not.

12) undressing her awkwardly. Women hate looking stupid, but stupid she will look when naked at the waist with a sweater stuck over her head. Unwrap her like an elegant present, not a kid's toy.

13) giving her a wedgie during foreplay. Stroking her gently through her panties can be very sexy. Pulling the material up between her thighs and yanking it back and forth is not.

14) being obsessed with the vagina. Although most men can find the clitoris without maps, they still believe that the vagina is where it's all at. No sooner is your hand down there than you're trying to stuff stolen banknotes up a chimney. This is okay in principle, but if you're not careful, it can hurt - so don't get carried away. It's best to pay more attention to her clitoris and the exterior of her vagina at first, then gently slip a finger inside her and see if she likes it.

15) massaging too roughly. You're attempting to give her a sensual, relaxing massage to get her in the mood. Hands and fingertips are okay; elbows and knees are not.

16) undressing prematurely. Don't force the issue by stripping before she's at least made some move toward getting your stuff off, even if it's just undoing a couple of buttons.

17) taking your pants off first. A man in socks and underpants is the worst. Lose the socks fist.

18) going too fast. When you get to the penis-in-vagina situation, the worst thing you can do is pump away like an industrial power tool - she'll soon feel like an assembly-line worker made obsolete by your technology. Build up slowly, with clean, straight, regular thrusts.

19) going too hard. If you bash your great triangular hip bones into her thigh or stomach, the pain is equal to two weeks of horseback riding concentrated into a few seconds.

20) coming too soon. Every man's fear. With reason. If you shoot before you see the whites of her eyes, make sure you have a backup plan to ensure her pleasure too.

21) not coming soon enough. It may appear to you that humping for an hour without climaxing is the mark of a sex god, but to her it's more likely the mark of a numb vagina. At least buy some intriguing wall hangings, so she has something to hold her interest while you're playing marathon man.

22) asking if she has come. You really ought to be able to tell. Most women make noise. But if you really don't know, don't ask.

23) performing oral sex too gently. Don't act like a giant cat at a saucer of milk. Get your whole mouth down there, and concentrate on gently rotating or flicking your tongue on her clitoris.

24) nudging her head down. Men persist in doing this until she's eyeball-to-penis, hoping that it will lead very swiftly to mouth-to-penis. All women hate this. It's about three steps from being dragged to a cave by their hair. If you want her to use her mouth, use yours; try talking seductively to her.

25) not warning her before you climax. Sperm tastes like sea water mixed with egg white. Not everybody likes it. When she's performing oral sex, warn her before you come so she can do what's necessary.

26) moving around during fellatio. Don't thrust. She'll do all the moving during fellatio. You just lie there. And don't grab her head.

27) taking ettiquette advise from porn movies. In x-rated movies, women seem to love it when men ejaculate over them. In real life, it just means more laundry to do.

28) making her ride on top for ages. Asking her to be on top is fine. Lying there grunting while she does all the hard work is not. Caress her gently, so that she doesn't feel quite so much like the captain of a schooner. And let her have a rest.

29) attempting anal sex and pretending it was an accident. This is how men earn a reputation for not being able to follow directions. If you want to put it there, ask her first. And don't think that being drunk is an excuse.

30) taking pictures. When a man says, "can i take a photo of you?" she'll hear the words "__to show my buddies." at least let her have custody of them.

31) not being imaginative enough. Imagination is anything from drawing patterns on her back to pouring honey on her and licking it off. Fruit, vegetables, ice and feathers are all handy props; hot candle wax and permanent dye are a no no.

32) slapping your stomach againt hers. There is no less erotic noise. It's as sexy as a belching contest.

33) aranging her in stupid poses. If she wants to do advanced yoga in bed, fine, but unless she's a romanian gymnast, don't get too ambitious. Ask yourself if you want a sexual partner with snapped hamstrings.

34) looking for her prostate. Read this carefully: anal stimulation feels good for men because they have a prostate. Women don't.

35) giving love bites. It is highly erotic to exert some gentle suction on the sides of the neck, if you do it carefully. No woman wants to have to wear turtlenecks and jaunty scarves for weeks on end.

36) barking instructions. Don't shout encouragement like a coach with a megaphone. It's not a big turn-on.

37) talking dirty. It makes you sound like a lonely magazine editor calling a 1-900 line. If she likes nasty talk, she'll let you know.

38) not caring whether she comes. You have to finish the job. Keep on trying until you get it right, and she might even do the same for you.

39) squashing her. Men generally weigh more than women, so if you lie on her a bit too heavily, she will turn blue.

40) thanking her. Never thank a woman for having sex with you. Your bedroom is not a soup kitchen.

[msema ukweli Kabisa]

Barb, its true very few guys have a clue on what to do to a woman. In my short life I have learnt its a skill that you horn, and no two chics are the same. Everyday with someone if you are open minded and generous with your love making it only gets better

problem is not that men are so bad in bed, the fundamental reason is selfishness. If you want to make love to a woman properly you have to know that 80% of the time spent is just for her, To arouse her, to make her cum etc. The rest 20% is yours. this ratio may change occasionaly but for me thats the rule that I abide in

[okiedokes]

Good post barb. I see the men(probably the 70% who don't know how to satisfy women) defending themselves. lmao! How does it feel to defend yourselves(manhood) guys? Taking a piss huh? hi hi hi hi...

Ps: I think mo-uk, realistpolitico, & moveon should have been the first three on that list girl...mo-uk especially. He seems to only dictate what a woman should do for him but we are yet to figure out if he can deliver. lol.

[KEMINOKANA]

Originally Posted by msema ukweli Kabisa

Barb, its true very few guys have a clue on what to do to a woman. In my short life I have learnt its a skill that you horn, and no two chics are the same. Everyday with someone if you are open minded and generous with your love making it only gets better

problem is not that men are so bad in bed, the fundamental reason is selfishness. If you want to make love to a woman properly you have to know that 80% of the time spent is just for her, To arouse her, to make her cum etc. The rest 20% is yours. this ratio may change occasionaly but for me thats the rule that I abide in

If all a guy wants ni punye, why do 80% of things for a woman u dont feel for that way? The truth is, most of the unsatisfied women are in punyetionships where the fella is in it for mdinyo....not mutual affection. The moment a guy truly falls in love, all of those nitty gritties need not be asked for coz they will be naturally done. Of course there are dudes who will go miles to get laid, but most dont, and I wouldnt either.

[Type R]

Originally Posted by barb

ways men fail in bed, take notes, all you casanovas..

1) not kissing first....blah blaahhhh...

It's unfair to copy-and-paste one of the oldest e-mails on the internet. We have said there are no hard-and-fast rules. Every couple (or 3-some, whatever...) must learn what is good for them. The only way to do this is to talk.

Originally Posted by barb

agreed, but when you tell a man to do this he ends up doing the exact opposite, the information gets in one ear and goes through the next....

OK, we're not all perfect, but I'm sure there are one or two of us who try.

Anyway, women do not communicate in a straight forward manner. I've been told, "Don't you dare suck the insides of my ears!!!!!" And so of course, I did exactly that. She reacted like she was under electrocution. Got more passion out of her than sucking that other place.