[Telvin]

It is alright to discuss racism but make sure you FIRST read Mashada political section before posting anything. I am yet to understand why we expect so much from white people while even black people hate other black people with a passion. It is impossible to read the political section in Mashada without avoiding tribal tension, obscenities and hate. This in no way excuses any racism but it a reality to those who wish to look at the issue honestly.

[m kenya]

Reason why junguz dont frown over BET is bcoz in my thinking, they think its a token of reward or compensation they are giving the black community for the years of disenfrachisement (<------jeez who invented this word?) that they subjected blacks to.
Many junguz are usually at a loss of how to fully compensate blacks,and hence they give them alot of leeway much like those indians who live in reserves and are not taxed.
Blacks on the other hand, search for this elusive equality, and one way of doing that is thru anger, and popping the racism question in about every hiccup that happenz between blacks and whites.

Nerimae, those T.V stations were never created to exclusively promote white supremacy, however, when you look at the role say CNN gives Jeff Koinange, you cant help but feel that they dont want to come v.close to the black community and would rather blacks touch blacks. To me that is just fear, which is human, but blacks look up to them for acceptance and cry everytime a white prefers his coloured brother than a black. these guys fear, and dont know how to adequately relate to blacks..

About those policemen in Kenya, i would just suggest (and this is why David should take this mashada thing to the next level, cuz guys here have got brilliant ideas, that can help raia back at home). I was saying that the KTB, Kenya Tourism Board, should introduce refresher courses for those 'tourist police, waiters, barmen, those guys who beba luggage from the gari to the hotel, what are they called? yah those ones, drivers, and about every other nyeuthi who works in the tourism industry about the virtues of putting blacks first, if not, treating everyone equally. Those blacks in the hospitality and service industry in Kenya are soo whipped, they have colonial hangovers, etc, etc..
Some refuse to speak swa, and they are at the coast, (that time the mzungu is dying for some1 to address him ati Jambo....gosh).

Anyway, superman, i feel you, as long as the education system in Kenya, or even here doesnt teach blacks that apreciating themselves aint wrong, then we will always cry racism, even when a jungu beats u clean game..

[supermann]

wacha i vent some more:

what is tis business of a chic telling you ati "well *supermann* im just looking for a -in her own words-PLATONIC relationship.and yet she knows that you know that she knows you are incredibly into her.and you know she iz feeling you.so every friday she she calls up"wanna catch up?" "yeah,4 sho!" u pick her up go to fancy lounge bars,margaritas,martinis,scotch n dry-neat(my drinks of choice in those places). unfortunately,im not blessed with mother terressa's patience so after the 2nd attempt and being told stories of platonics,i resign to the fact it is what it is.just buddies.now the other day,she calls up,ati "whatcha upto?" "aaah just chilling" wanna do something tomoz after work (friday)?" "sure,why not".

so i tell my boyz to show up as well.we all meet up in an irish pub (as opposed to cocktail lounge bar).im dressed down,order a cold guinness and i start watching rugby.while she iz animatedly engaged in a conversation with one of my mates,i've managed to strike a convo with the hoochie sitting near me.deep and meaningful dialogue about how her top compliments her eye colour I.E. seriously flirting.

on the way to drop her off,im getting silent treatment,sulking etc im thinking she may be typsy.didnt strike me she was pissed off.why?she didnt get her weekly dose of attention instead i was tryng to harvest phone digits from "miss nice top".now now now when you say its platonic,you should expect to be treated just like that,you dont see me giving the guyz all the attention in the world,do ya?thot i left these kindergaten games when i graduated to nursery school!why do women play these complex games eh?make ur damn mind up!

[jmburus]

>had a little commotion with an African chic I work with and she went on and on >over what I had supposedly done to her blah blah, I ended up telling her, I bet >if I was white you would call me a racist, wouldn't you?[/quote]


Heh heh heh kwani exactly what did you do to her.. ?

If its anything like you did to me when I was in Harare .. then I support her kabisa

[m kenya]

Supermann,
u post for sheezyy man, that tabia is with women world over. The chick in ur case is simply selfish, is she younger than you?

My vibe went sth along those lines.....
Hooked up with a sista . 1 year older than me, lakini she is flyyy...she tells me she has a boyfi, (shows me his pic, and on several occassions i have seen the mutha pick her) this is after i have seriously flirted with her. what does 'having a boyfi mean?' since i dont wanna be a hyena, i back-off, so we are chatting on gmail this day, and we get talking about her birthday, she asks me to 'suprise her', i tell her, birthday gifts are emotional (at least for me) and so she should expect some sentimentals...she is like, am ok, am ok,..to be on the safe side, i lenga the idea without telling her, man on her birthday, she sends (offline) messages to my gmail, ranting about how she is waiting for her bday present, i tell her gal, seriously i dont think i can pull it off, coz i will ask for a kiss afterwards, she is like WTF?? A kiss? Am like, ala, whats wrong with that, am like into you.
She goes like, sawa, but we aint gonna plan the kissing, we just let it happen, like u buy me the present, and along the way if it comes, it comes,.

I lenga buying the presents, she is like fine, whatchu wanna do??, i say nuthn, lets call this off coz of ur boyfi, she like naah, u can take me out, make me happy, buy me lunch etc, he is away on some tour, am like arent u cheating??, she's like, naah, u and I just gonna hang out, i tell her gal am feeling u baadly, if we hang out am gonna request for sentimentals, (not sex or making out), but am gonna katia u thouroughly and i will expect u to seriously consider my proposal to become my chick, she smiles sheepishly, she aint committing, she calls again, so when we going out? i say have u thought of what i sed, she like cut that line, am like fine,we aint going out. Nite time, she sending me texts saying 'i miss you' umenitupa, whats up boo, alot of mushy stuff.

To cut a long story short supermann, i kicked her out! I realized tha woman is being plain selfish, cuz after considering things, you find that she wants you to spend (time, emotion, attention, lines) on her, and she aint commiting or giving u whatchu want (in your case).
You can spend eternity in that situation, You the man, make the decision yoself and stick to it! Delete number, banish her from yo life man,

Keep it locked

[Euphoria]

hahahaha.so very true my friend.dunno why we do that.maybe we're just confused?dunno but i admit that we do it.i guess us women need to be sure b4 we jump into anything that might be serious.so we wait.and we see where it goes.the chic definately has a crush on u.and now that u didnt give her that much attention.she gonna want u even more man.so play cool and go along with it if u want her

[trueafrican]

Originally Posted by m kenya

Reason why junguz dont frown over BET is bcoz in my thinking, they think its a token of reward or compensation they are giving the black community for the years of disenfrachisement (<------jeez who invented this word?) that they subjected blacks to.
Many junguz are usually at a loss of how to fully compensate blacks,and hence they give them alot of leeway much like those indians who live in reserves and are not taxed.
Blacks on the other hand, search for this elusive equality, and one way of doing that is thru anger, and popping the racism question in about every hiccup that happenz between blacks and whites.

Nerimae, those T.V stations were never created to exclusively promote white supremacy, however, when you look at the role say CNN gives Jeff Koinange, you cant help but feel that they dont want to come v.close to the black community and would rather blacks touch blacks. To me that is just fear, which is human, but blacks look up to them for acceptance and cry everytime a white prefers his coloured brother than a black. these guys fear, and dont know how to adequately relate to blacks..

About those policemen in Kenya, i would just suggest (and this is why David should take this mashada thing to the next level, cuz guys here have got brilliant ideas, that can help raia back at home). I was saying that the KTB, Kenya Tourism Board, should introduce refresher courses for those 'tourist police, waiters, barmen, those guys who beba luggage from the gari to the hotel, what are they called? yah those ones, drivers, and about every other nyeuthi who works in the tourism industry about the virtues of putting blacks first, if not, treating everyone equally. Those blacks in the hospitality and service industry in Kenya are soo whipped, they have colonial hangovers, etc, etc..
Some refuse to speak swa, and they are at the coast, (that time the mzungu is dying for some1 to address him ati Jambo....gosh).

Anyway, superman, i feel you, as long as the education system in Kenya, or even here doesnt teach blacks that apreciating themselves aint wrong, then we will always cry racism, even when a jungu beats u clean game..

I support you on this EDUCATION is the only solution.

[sucker]

Well racism is even worse on black to black, We black people need to love and respect ourselves first before crying out loud on racism among the nyeupes.

Just watch out how a white person gets the 1st class treatment even in our homelands. Its a shame how we blacks are so desperate to please the wazungus than our fellow men.

I have so much experience on this having been on an attachment with white attachees in my own homeland though we all held the same credentials, but because my own people got so fascinated they were always dying to please them white ones, it was pathetic. The funny thing though is that they knew all about it and they would later make jokes about it.

If we started debating thro this it might take us forever, i think we as black people should first have confidence in ourselves, pride and a sense of belonging, only then we will see the light.

Ofcourse racism is here to stay, we just have to deal with it and not cry foul or use it as a cover up. The other day some new E.U member were also complaining of not being treated equally with some of their member states.
What do you call that,?? i call it Racism !! so its not just a black and white thing, its all comes down from what part of the world you were born, and its all served on different plates, if you get my point!

[supermann]

m kenya,

its nice 2 know im not the only victim of this kinda sh1t.and yeah,she iz younger by a year but very accomplished in fact sometymes i think she iz kinda outta my league what with being so fly and successful.but that aint the point,i dont like games.kwanza lemme update you on what happened this week.

after releasing ma stress here,i decided on honesty,let her know (on e mail)i aint down for games,we are friends and good luck with whoever you gonna fancy.in fact,ima back off a lil' bit so so i can get a mental closure on previous more-than-friends ambitions and just be a good friend.i have many gal buddies,cant be that hard.

on cue,she calls on friday and thanx me for being candid.then she iz like why dont we just chill indoors and watch movies while we talk-its too cold(winter) to go out anyways.fyne-that makes sense.you pick the picture,im down for whatever.

and you know what movie she ends up bringing with her ? the notebook!im no romantic genius but chilling in a guy'z crib,having a drink and watching "the notebook" aint exactly agitating for "platonics".(i had in mind goodfellas or fight club but wasnt my call).

kept my reasonable physical distance but as she leaves she gives me a kiss on the lips "as a buddy".now tell me if this aint f8cking with someone's head!

[Delylar]

Originally Posted by supermann

m kenya,

its nice 2 know im not the only victim of this kinda sh1t.and yeah,she iz younger by a year but very accomplished in fact sometymes i think she iz kinda outta my league what with being so fly and successful.but that aint the point,i dont like games.kwanza lemme update you on what happened this week.

after releasing ma stress here,i decided on honesty,let her know (on e mail)i aint down for games,we are friends and good luck with whoever you gonna fancy.in fact,ima back off a lil' bit so so i can get a mental closure on previous more-than-friends ambitions and just be a good friend.i have many gal buddies,cant be that hard.

on cue,she calls on friday and thanx me for being candid.then she iz like why dont we just chill indoors and watch movies while we talk-its too cold(winter) to go out anyways.fyne-that makes sense.you pick the picture,im down for whatever.

and you know what movie she ends up bringing with her ? the notebook!im no romantic genius but chilling in a guy'z crib,having a drink and watching "the notebook" aint exactly agitating for "platonics".(i had in mind goodfellas or fight club but wasnt my call).

kept my reasonable physical distance but as she leaves she gives me a kiss on the lips "as a buddy".now tell me if this aint f8cking with someone's head!

She’s just making sure she’s got your mental balls locked in before the real deal. You can count on her completing the mission with no casualties (at least not her) and everybody goes home happy.
Watch your heart and have fun, you might even get to watch ‘The Wedding’. Lakini if she brings along “How to Lose a Guy in 10 days” then you better run.