Kenyan Evangelist or Outright Conman

[isso]

OK! We all know life is hard and Kenyans are masters at creating and taking advantage of opportunities....but this jamaa is just operating at another level....

I actually know enough Kenyans and Africans who totally believe this guy is a miracle worker and the next best thing to Jesus...

At the end of the day, he just seems to be running a front to traffic Kenyan infants to the UK. What do y'all think?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3560802.stm

[JERRY LEE JONES]

>OK! We all know life is hard and Kenyans are masters at
>creating and taking advantage of opportunities....but this
>jamaa is just operating at another level....
>
>I actually know enough Kenyans and Africans who totally
>believe this guy is a miracle worker and the next best thing
>to Jesus...
>
>At the end of the day, he just seems to be running a front to
>traffic Kenyan infants to the UK. What do y'all think?

Its such a pity to see that so many people in Kenya or Africa put all their faith in a particular church or preacher and at the end of the day the guy turns out to be nothing but a hoax.
This guy reminds me of that infamous German preache named Reinhard Bonnke.
Every end month he is in the country and takes all ur hard earned cash in the name of "sadaka" while he indulges himself in wine women and fast cars galavanting all over the world.

And the lord said "Be wary if false prophets claiming to lead you to the promised land"

[isso]

JLJ....

You should see the sheer amount of folk that turn out to this guy's church....

Apparently, he even had a helpline those who can reach church can call and they would get advice from sijui who....Talk about telepreaching....

[pussycat]

some churches even ask how much you make so they can tell you how much to pay them.
if the government of Kenya steps in they might find some of the missing children.

The Nyekos are the latest couple who claim to have had a miracle conception. Members of one of Britain's fastest-growing churches - the Gilbert Deya Ministries - they say their three-week old son is a "miracle from God."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3558310.stm

let me ask TManager and Pmaumau, is this possible? do you believe this can happen?


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[TeamManager]

>let me ask TManager and Pmaumau, is this possible? do you
>believe this can happen?

I believe in miracles, but Something does not smell right in this particular ministry.

Isn't it strange that when Jesus and our early Christian fathers did miracles the PRAISE and GLORY automatically when to God with need for advertisement.

Remember Jesus said, 'Many will say to Me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' And then I will declare to them, "I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' " Matthew 7:21-23 NKJV

More later....

[TeamManager]

Isn't it strange that when Jesus and our early Christian
fathers did miracles the PRAISE and GLORY automatically WENT
to God with NO need for advertisement.

Sorry....

[isso]

Tell me something TM....

If God is good enough to perform a miracle (the existence of miracles here is not in question), and has made barren women or women over the hill conceive, why can't he just let them give birth at Guys/St. Thomas' Hospital in London or something. What's with the 'send the women with big bellies to the slums of Nairobi' to give birth thing.

Just listening to Deya's responses makes you wonder if he's a share holder of a firm traficking new born children and he recieves dividend payments through ludicrous offerings that desperate childless couples make?

We had a discussion once about religion vs. science, and I'd be interested to know how miracles defy DNA....(just one of them things that don't make sense)

[slaggard]

by now u would think that nations have realized the danger posed by religion; greater danger to our societies than drugs or crime. more lives have been lost, and more crimes have been committed in the name of religion.
man is not free untill he is unbound from philosophies that prosper by means of fear and false hope.

[NJamba]

This is crazy this guy ought to be jailed. Kenyans are the some of the most fanatical christians in Africa. There is this lady called Wairimu Nelson who every summer comes here is states to perform "miracles" and you should see these christians attending the crusades saying how gifted the lady is.
I guess people are very desperate to have someone make them feel good or have hope.

Reinhard Bonnke g=made alot of free chums in Kenya.


There are no miracles never was never will be. Let the kenyan authorities crack down on this Jungus and Kenya takataka.

[lovely]

Wairimu Nelson is another one! I hate talking about her coz everytime I get over-emotional!!