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Old 16th August 2004, 04:05 AM
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It is pushing the limits of absurdity too far when this woman now claims to have had 13 children in the last 5 years, she is 65 years old, has not had sex with her husband......stinks to high heaven!!

http://www.eastandard.net/headlines/news15080410.htm

The police should now be called in to establish who these children belong to!!!
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Old 16th August 2004, 08:44 AM
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I saw that feature on telly yesterday and it was really alarming. As in,the mathe doesnt have sex but she gets babies after 4 months. Now Teammanager what do u have to say about this coz if this is are miraculous babies then they should be given birth normally.What i mean,the woman should go thru the 9 months but for this case its 4 months.

What i know is that God will never give you more than you can handle.He will alwaz give you enuff for that time.So Team manager tueleze.......
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Old 17th August 2004, 12:41 AM
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>As in,the mathe doesnt have sex but she gets babies
>after 4 months. Now Teammanager what do u have to say about
>this coz if this is are miraculous babies then they should be
>given birth normally.

CONMEN exist inside and also outside the Church setup, BUT I guess its more annoying when someone claims God's HAND in his connish games.

ALL the Children born 'out of the promise' in the BIBLE, eg ISSAC to Ambraham/Sarah, SAMUEL to Elkanah/Hannah, JOHN the Baptist to Zacharia/Elizabeth (Luke 1:36 Eliza is already 6 months PG, Luke 1:56-57 Mary stays with Eliza a further 3 months and then Eliza delivers) AND JESUS to vigin mary took the normal nine months before they were born.

Atleast Deya is not original in his con/lies. I once worked in a town in Kenya (name withheld) and there was a certain african-christian mix religion where the head Bishop claimed that he could also offer miracle babies. The only catch was that it was only him who could apply a certain 'holy' cream inside the woman by sexually penetration.
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Old 17th August 2004, 03:05 PM
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latest info.

"Each one of the women had an infant which they claimed was a miracle birth," Kyles said, "but a DNA test carried out on one pair did not establish a match. Papers presented for the passport applications also turned out to be forgeries in both cases."
http://www.eastandard.net/headlines/news17080412.htm

"These organisations are evil, they are the Pharisees, they claim they know God but they don’t. God can’t use them to show his work because they are evil," he said

how ironic?

isn't there some woman minister (I saw her "special" on Standard or Nation about her upcoming events in the USA) wonder how she fares on?

Police in Kenya have seized 11 "miracle babies" for DNA tests after allegations of child trafficking.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3572742.stm


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At lovely I would like to know more about wairimu please fill me the details.
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Old 18th August 2004, 05:33 AM
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This is all utter nonsense!! And the worst part is, some people actually believe in thi sh*t!
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Old 18th August 2004, 06:52 PM
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Someone claims to have testimony of a miracle baby. I say someone was paid to utter bullocks.

http://www.deyaministries.com/images/doc006_pmc.jpg

http://www.deyaministries.com/images/doc005_ml2.jpg

http://www.deyaministries.com/images...MrOdera_we.jpg

More info below:
http://www.deyaministries.com/links.asp
http://www.deyaministries.com/shownews.asp?newsid=11
http://www.deyaministries.com/news.asp
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Old 19th August 2004, 01:12 PM
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I do not believe this 'miracle baby' stuff is true...and it shouldnt be coz on a large scale it would put some of us outta business.

But do I detect a tinge of racism here? akina Benny Hinn, Reinhard Bonnke and God knows who have pulled similar stunts in kenya before without attracting the same ire...

Just a thought
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Old 19th August 2004, 11:14 PM
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Did y'all read how he arges that miracles can't be x-plained? Of course evry1 knows that science and religion are far apart in some areas. So this could be the place to hide (IF at all these miracle aren't real). I think ataharibia waubiri wengine, if this case turns to be children traffickin. Mayb the £1 Million church money came from such vice, who knows
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Old 21st August 2004, 05:44 AM
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"A fool and his money are soon parted" There will always be gullible people and the people to take full advantage. Even here in the US a certain guy came up with this wacky idea of a pet rock. One would think this was a no brain3r, but guess what this guy ended up a millionaire selling rocks in those TV infomercials. In short, anything goes and I think those who can see right through these lies be it the govt, or even individuals to step up and protect those easily taken in.
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