[Gaidi Sugu]

This from MSNBC:

A Catholic priest with a history of child molestation streching as far back as the '70s and involving more than 26 young boys has been discovered running a hotel catering for the gay community.

Apparently this guy claimed that he was suffering from a nervous breakdown after his indiscretions came to light and so was transferred from his diosesce in Boston to some other diosesce in the desert somewhere to recover.

That was three years ago. Apparently the Catholic church did not bother to warn the members of this new diosesce and apparently were aware that he was running a gay hotel, but did not even attempt to stem the flow of church funds to this rogue priest. The Catholic church bankrolled this whole enterprise!

But how is this linked to the Pope's sexual orientation? Well, usually the Pope is quick to condemn anything that he considers unholy. If the Pope was so quick to condemn birth control, abortion,fiercely defended celibacy, and condemned a myriad of other mundane "sins", why is he so quiet when it comes to child sex abuse by his own priests? Why doesn't he make a public statement to condemn such filthy acts? Why haven't these errant priests been removed from office, or better yet prosecuted for their offenses? Surely there is no shortage of witnesses. If the Pope had been any other world leader there would have been massive demonstrations demanding action?(remember Bill Clinton and that Whitewater deal?)

Is the Pope gay? Is that why he is so tolerant? Or is he just too old and frail, too incompetent to run such a massive organization? Should the Pope resign for mismanaging the Catholic Church? Isn't it the height of mismanagement to let a few errant priests soil the name of the whole organization while he sits and watches. Isn't it a form of criminal negligence to allow child molesters to continue preying on your flock just coz you're trying to maintain a facade of order? What is the Pope trying to hide?

[muombaji]

is the pope gay....is bush a woman?
this r irrelevant questions.. the pope's sexuality has nothing to do with the message of the catholic church

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[Siko]

I am not a Catholic, so the Pope means nothing to me. Here's my 2p, the Pope was not quick to condemn the Priests because they were making a bad name for the church, and whatever he said would bring attention th the church. On the other hand, the things you mentioned have nothing to do with the Catholic church, but are with the community,(the evil of society that the curch is so ready to help us get rid of) so he was able condemn what was outside.
And please this has nothing to do with the Pope's sexuality. The church has to be "holier than thou", ndio maana!!

[Mark Twist Thuo]

The Church and the state are separate and democratic desires such as wanting resignation of leaders as well as questioning the Pope's actions in one way or the other do not apply here. The church runs by its own sets of rules and regulations.

Also the pope has summoned all the 11 US Cardinals to the Vatican to discuss this issue. In addition, the sexual indiscretion of priests while by and large involved young boys, was by no means limited to them but included women too. In fact, cases have been made against certain priests for Impregnating women.

As such, the Pope's comments, or lack thereof , should not be construed as indicative of sexual orientation.

Finally, this scandal has exploded in the United States and as a political entity, the Vatican has its chain of command through which situations are assessed and evaluated before making the necessary response. It may well be that this is why the Pope has summoned the US Cardinals to the Vatican to understand the situation fully before commenting.


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[Mark Twist Thuo]

By the way Gaidi do you know the Pope is supposed to be infallible? Meaning he cannot be gay?

Just some propaganda they fed us when we were young and wide eyed catholic kids



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[JawBoneKrusher]

LMAO!

the pope gay! enyewe that guy was once a priest who juas the things he did?

[Mark Twist Thuo]

The problem with issues like this is that whenever they break, they tend to be followed by witch hunting and finger pointing all across the board.

Let's wait and see what take place first.

I think the more salient question at this point is, given what we now know to have been taking place in many catholic dioceses in the US, how rampant is it in Kenya and how many victims live in perpertual silence and shame?

What can be done?

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[JawBoneKrusher]

MTT

imagine i have buddies who were altar boyz. i wonder if they were victims of Catho preachers?

[Mark Twist Thuo]

>MTT
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>imagine i have buddies who were altar
>boyz. i wonder if they were victims of
>Catho preachers?

We have no way of knowing obviously unless they came forward. But there is nothing to indicate that the Fathers at home are any better behaved than the ones here. So it is entirely possible that this same problem is affecting our people back home.

In fact, there is one priest in either Zambia or Zimbabwe who was accused of having molested at least 30 young African boys sexually. I'll try and find the story but we definitely have reason to be concerned. This is not a localised issue and by the way Catholic fathers are transferred around the world at will.


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[Gaidi Sugu]

Let me bring this closer to home.

Imagine that a teacher at the school where your little son/brother is enrolled has been molesting little boys for years with full knowledge of the headmaster. Each time a student complains of molestation, he is silenced by threats and bribes, and the errant teacher transferred by the headmaster to another class, where he can molest a new bunch of kids.

When the allegations and rumors become too many to silence or ignore, the headmaster suddenly decides to address the issue publicly.

One: You are going to be scared about your child's safety and wonder if this has happened to him.

Two: You are going to wonder why the headmaster had not informed you about the goings on in your son's school.

Three:You are going to wonder if the headmaster is somehow implicated in this type of criminal behavior leading to his strange silence.

Four:You are going to wonder if the headmaster is being blackmailed by the teacher over some other stuff he may have done.

Five:You are going to wonder if the headmaster really cares for the kids.

Six:You are going to wonder how someone so incompetent could have been given such responsibilities.

Seven: You are going to wonder why he is not in jail for being an accomplice to, and aiding & abetting in this despicable act.

Think about the Pope.