[Mtulivu]

Hey guys,
Words would not even start to describe the issues Kenyans have with each other, and they move in clusters. We tend to heng out with a particular group of guys, and anyone who tends to act a little bit different, does not belong. For those who just like henging out with everyone can relate, you always hear the hating of one group to another.
The sad thing is that some of the weakness or lack of knowledge in one group is in abundance in the other. The clusters are divided mostly along social status. You have the IT group, the allegedly focused group, the manoki group and so on. Then there is the misfit (mostly walevi) who does not care where he fits as long as he is satisfied.
One thing though I have noted is that we could greatly advance if only we would stop down playing each other and just work together. There is that guy who lives from paycheck to paycheck doing odd jobs but has mastered some serious moneymaking schemes but can never be able to get the capital nor the bureaucracy needed and then there is the guy who has it going well with a decent job but is kind of tired of the lack of security and kissing up, and would love to start something else but he does not have the time and neither can he afford to leave his job presently because cannot afford risks presently. One has nothing to loose thus and would gladlly try it and the other can bank roll the operation and take care of the legal stuff.
Guys lets work together, the opportunities are there for uniqueness.
Forget trying to compete with the white folks. Think of those small ideas and how they can grow. Something that kind of sounds ridiculass but you have a way for it to work and you will florish. Let us get alone and stop player hating.
Kamau, stop thinking it is over because you have made mistakes, and Onyi, do not think Kamau is an idiot who has wasted his life, because he could help you realise your dream and you do not know what experience he has gained.
We are all looking for the right and ideal opportunities, but those are inherited, and very few of us are that fortunate, as for the rest of us ours are those idiotic and embarassing opportunities that need guts to get involved but everyone wants to be a part of, once they take off.
PEACE

[ndume1]

>Hey guys,
>Words would not even start to describe
>the issues Kenyans have with each other,
>and they move in clusters. We tend to
>heng out with a particular group of
>guys, and anyone who tends to act a
>little bit different, does not belong.
>For those who just like henging out with
>everyone can relate, you always hear the
>hating of one group to another.
>The sad thing is that some of the
>weakness or lack of knowledge in one
>group is in abundance in the other. The
>clusters are divided mostly along social
>status. You have the IT group, the
>allegedly focused group, the manoki
>group and so on. Then there is the
>misfit (mostly walevi) who does not care
>where he fits as long as he is
>satisfied.
>One thing though I have noted is that we
>could greatly advance if only we would
>stop down playing each other and just
>work together. There is that guy who
>lives from paycheck to paycheck doing
>odd jobs but has mastered some serious
>moneymaking schemes but can never be
>able to get the capital nor the
>bureaucracy needed and then there is the
>guy who has it going well with a decent
>job but is kind of tired of the lack of
>security and kissing up, and would love
>to start something else but he does not
>have the time and neither can he afford
>to leave his job presently because
>cannot afford risks presently. One has
>nothing to loose thus and would gladlly
>try it and the other can bank roll the
>operation and take care of the legal
>stuff.
>Guys lets work together, the
>opportunities are there for uniqueness.
>Forget trying to compete with the white
>folks. Think of those small ideas and
>how they can grow. Something that kind
>of sounds ridiculass but you have a way
>for it to work and you will florish. Let
>us get alone and stop player hating.
>Kamau, stop thinking it is over because
>you have made mistakes, and Onyi, do not
>think Kamau is an idiot who has wasted
>his life, because he could help you
>realise your dream and you do not know
>what experience he has gained.
>We are all looking for the right and
>ideal opportunities, but those are
>inherited, and very few of us are that
>fortunate, as for the rest of us ours
>are those idiotic and embarassing
>opportunities that need guts to get
>involved but everyone wants to be a part
>of, once they take off.
>PEACE

People do get along, Mtulivu. Its just a matter, like you have stated, of breaking the "clique's rules". It takes one person to make the change and set the example.

[Mau Mau]

Yup, couldn't agree more man. I am one of those folks that likes to hang wit different sorts of people coz I am about different things. Ilike to party, I like to achieve academically, financially etc. I like to socialize. And I've noticed that segregation nonsense. Hangin with different folks keeps u balanced, u get a good perspective of life and it's real.
Guyz need to socialize across all imaginary and evident boundaries. Very healthy.
Sometimes your most loyal and trustworthy friends are not your contemporaries (career, education, finances etc)

[pope]

Interesting how peeps dismiss the sensible threads. Or perhaps the info hits too close to home.

[brickhse]

Amen to one of the few voices of reason

[msemakweli]

The battle ain't lost,Mtulivu it's only the beginning,these things take time coz wengine wangali wamelala....the 'clicque/crew'thing: and we thought that ended with clearing highschool!!ha!
Seriously though, it does start with an
individual as Ndume said, realising he/she is closing themselves off to new/different people/friendships/experiences and partnerships.
When the penny does drop they'll wonder why they hadn't seen what was staring them in the face...been there!

Don't be afraid to explore outside of the comfort zone...u never know.

I call it as i see it!!