Government Using Musyoka to Destroy ODM-K

[PippyZa]

I urge all of you to wait and see the outcome.Even those kambas will return back to ODM ..Kwani si ni kazi wanatafuta??

[KayJay1]

kalonzo learnt something from moi 4 sure...riler had totally under-estimated him, as usual he blames somebody else for the mess..... politics, it is a game of the ages....! I respect kalonzo more now, and am sure so do many other kenyans....ndelefa shuga maisha!

[Senator76]

Why would one defect from LDP to LPK parties which are all in ODM Kenya..If Kalonzo is man enough let him not buy time..If he is tired of ODM Kenya why not just leave and declare that he is a presidential candidate in LPK period and then ODM-K will ahead and choose their candidate to meet him on dec.2007..Wht cant he just tell ODM=K see you at the ballot box...

Why dilly dally..mara am running away with the certificate..mara Uhuru Kenyatta come back..mara Maanzo run the party...mara his MPs say that we can even support Kibaki..Kalonzo be man and If you are tired of ODM get out and face the public..ask them for votes..

Kalonzo wanted to ride on other peoples back but when he realized that no one wanted to donate his back..he was angered..according to Kalonzo..It was him or nothing..or no one..and this is the guy talking of consensus?
I think ODM-K should move forward get the real officials registered and then kick MAANZO out of the party plus Musyoka and the group..they can join Kibaki if they want....But I assure that Kalonzo will never be President in kenya..he has just blown it off...

[Gugul]

Originally Posted by Senator76

Why would one defect from LDP to LPK parties which are all in ODM Kenya..If Kalonzo is man enough let him not buy time..If he is tired of ODM Kenya why not just leave and declare that he is a presidential candidate in LPK period and then ODM-K will ahead and choose their candidate to meet him on dec.2007..Wht cant he just tell ODM=K see you at the ballot box...

Why dilly dally..mara am running away with the certificate..mara Uhuru Kenyatta come back..mara Maanzo run the party...mara his MPs say that we can even support Kibaki..Kalonzo be man and If you are tired of ODM get out and face the public..ask them for votes..

Kalonzo wanted to ride on other peoples back but when he realized that no one wanted to donate his back..he was angered..according to Kalonzo..It was him or nothing..or no one..and this is the guy talking of consensus?
I think ODM-K should move forward get the real officials registered and then kick MAANZO out of the party plus Musyoka and the group..they can join Kibaki if they want....But I assure that Kalonzo will never be President in kenya..he has just blown it off...

The government also caused the earth tremors.

[ChipsHazijaivapoa]

Originally Posted by PippyZa

I urge all of you to wait and see the outcome.Even those kambas will return back to ODM ..Kwani si ni kazi wanatafuta??

Te HE HE HE.Pippyza leo umenichekesha!

[mak&emoto]

Kalonzo should just run for the presidency, but not in ODMK. That way ODMK can crystallize and lock the Kao vote to Kalonzo and avoid a scenario where they vote for Kibaki! Let the Kaos learn the lessons that the Luhya, Luo and Kikuyu candidates learnt in 1997.

Kopite, please go tell Kalonzo to go to that ROAP party of his and run for the presidency, I will even donate $20 to his campaign foundation.

[shokorokobangoshe]

As things stand, Kalonzo has taken over ODM. It is for Raila and his brigade to look for another party.

Regardless of how lowly I regard Kalonzo, I never knew he was capable of such a smart move. Welcome to the intrigues of "realpolitics".

Mimi kama nyasi, bado naumia fahari wanapopigana.

[thuown]

Only the foolish ones can write off Raila and Co. 5 months to the election. Ruto- Mudavadi-Raila axis can still win an election with Kalonzo. As long as they can isolate the Kamba vote and beat Kibaki in Western and Coast and still keep their core votes in Nairobi, Rift valley, Nyanza and North Eastern they will still win.

- Moi is doing is best to split the Kalenjin vote. If he succeeds then Kibaki will win. However, dont count on this until you see it.

If you get too excited you might die of heart attack celebrating ODMs death only for the monster to return.

@ Old School.
I could not agree more that only the foolish ones will write off raila at this point and to their own peril.
But I beg to differ with you on the Mudavadi-Ruto axis for the following reasons;
1. Immediately they crown Raila as the flag bearer they will cease to be important in their regions thanks to our tribe based politics. These two have just been railas creations and yet to show any clout on their own.
2. I guess part of the kibaki campaign strategy is to give any important raila supporter enough to worry about locally to keep them busy.

3. Further more Kibaki does not need to win more 40% to make it in the said regions and going by the current events he may even get more.

4. Since the exit of Matiba, kibaki was always the candidate to beat in central, Nairobi and eastern (even in eastern when Ngilu mounted a serious challenge). I have not seen anything to suggest that this trend would now change (the danger to him is only of kalonzo or ngilu would deliver votes to raila).
4. Nyachae is in the picture so raila does not even have 100% of the nyanza vote under lock.
5. Kalegins on there part will vote which ever way they please, some voted for kibaki before when Uhuru was the tribal choice so it is expected that more may join him this time round because his incumbency status .

But as I said one cannot completely write Raila off. What tricks do you think he should employ this give kibaki a knock out blow?

1. I think he should snatch the support of moi from Kibaki, by doing a deal with Gideon the way Uhuru was to. Papa will have not choice but to support the raila after this deal.

2. Find a way to appease Nyachae, this should be easy since nyachaes has even talked about retiring, by being out of the picture he will do Raila a lot of good. He just has to give Nyachae something in return (MOU to nominate and appoint his child a minister)

3. Make sure he has enough spin masters so that whatever happens the image of united solid ODM is maintained, this way he will have his grip on western …..I am not sure of coast because of recent magarini but it is the best one can do.

4. if kalonzo does not mend his ways, replace him with ngilu.

5. The most important thing is to continue with country wide rallies; and with his talent of finding issues to accuse the system for, on regular basis, many may be won into voting him the savior come November

[kashee]

so senator,wat do u want us to do?eh?

[JOtero]

Originally Posted by kashee

so senator,wat do u want us to do?eh?

Actuall the smart ones predicted all this along time ago. Raila they also predicted Raila had no chance, ODM was a rotting orange and amorphous to boot. In a few years ODM will be a footnote in Kenyan history