[chemical]

funny thing is most of the early nigerian producers trained at KIMC then went on to train guys in nigeria....

[thierry]

so what you're trying to say ..i'm thinking.. is that what..the chickens have come home to roost or something? the movies may be bad but i as a kenyan should'nt criticize coz the people who made those movies were trained in a Kenyan institution?

Maybe that's not what you're trying to say but if it is then that's just bull......why? because so far the Kenyan movies that i've watched are far superior to any Nigerian ones i'v watched so there is no correlation to training...the thing is people know what sells in Nigeria and they cater to that..that's just it.

[chemical]

>so what you're trying to say ..i'm thinking.. is that what..the chickens have come home to roost or something? the movies may be bad but i as a kenyan should'nt criticize coz the people who made those movies were trained in a Kenyan institution?

thats one way of loooking at it...but I intended to point out that it is not training thats lacking in kenya....
I have'nt seen many kenyan productions but the dangerous affair movie stank for real..tired worn out theme...but I was amused to note that 90% of the scenes involved drinking so at least they had fun..

read scramble for africa by thomas pakenham and see how many stories there are waiting to be told...

[mimie]

rumour has it that anything that can sell will sell in Nigeria. anything. so what with available production resources, what else do you need? you know what, come to think of it, let me give this a more in depth thot

Nigerian movies are not made to impress the world with their intellectual capacity. neither are they made for the Oscars, Cannes or whatever.

They are made for the money.

I think the filmakers are geniuses (forgive any error in sp if...). why do i say that? they do not try, like the Kenyans to impose western values into filmaking. you know, like the age old question of what is literature? is it sth that fits into the already set framework of the west or is it sth that is a true repre. of the society in which it is set????????

Now, for Nigerian filmakers, it is about tapping from the local, for the local by the local (well mostly) in the end they end up mass producing for a willing audience, which is not worried about the quality but that the movies are able to entertain as well as educate them. man, these are movies that reflect what they truly feel, live with everyday. am sure they mostly say, what the heck, hollywood, bollywood, Kollywood (ama what's the Kenyan 'industry' called) can go to .... us guys are covered.

am thinking of South Africa for instance, has it hit anyone as odd that although this may be the leading economic state in the whole of the subsaharan region, it does not have what could be termed an industry? believe me, this is not for the lack of resources. it is mostly because these are guys struggling to fit into the 'world' market. ie will Yesterday be nominated the best foreign movie? or Totsi?

so you see, it is a rather complex question that has gotten entangled with economic, political and social baggage.

anyway, these are just my thoughts

[Wantai]

nigerian movies are a big hit in kenya right now. Affordability and availability. Since Kenyans cannot go beyond vitimbi, then we have our west african counterparts entertaining us. Kenyans have deemed it impossible to pump money into a worthwhile production that will bring good returns. The last mile, was a shame, ati kenyan movie. its rubbish!!