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Default RE:Dee - 06-15-2004, 01:44 PM

its not pessimism, its just that i see the sense in Thierry's concerns. He seems to be pointing out exactly the same things i saw as possible hiccups on day one. maybe too deadly who started all this should step in and set it right.

Dudette, you got the part...the lead actress part i mean. tee hee hee

Hey Dee, I like you optimism, but guess we will have to come up with sth more practical. how can i shoot a scnene in a different location from Pix and Thierry for instance? and then? no, please clarify, coz enyewe, ouridea is going down the drain.

reversed roles Dee? remember D.A?
 
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Default RE:Dee - 06-16-2004, 04:21 AM

Hi Guys. Decided to be silent and see everyones view.
Firstly I may not totally agree with Thierrys view but its true logistics will be a problem, but how many problems do we face daily and find ways around them.
I really dont want us to get way ahead of ourselves and thats what has happened.Lets first write a script. The script is the film. A script written is half the job done. Indeed it has to be a practical script and logistics will be a problem for any script we write.We can discuss it now but no solution will come, since we dont have a script that will show us exactly which problems we will have rather than generally assuming a myriad of problems and solutions that may or may not be.
NO ONE HAS SENT ME A SCRIPT, but we are all eager to talk about other things.I'd be happy having a script and not make the movie rather than no script at all. Having a Final scipt while doin it over the net is really a great step. Who knows, a time may avail itself now or later to produce it.

Later at the funding stage.......we may get enough money to sort out logistics.With the enthusiasm I see in yall I see people knocking down doors of NGO's, film distributors etc and who knows.Lets get to that stage step by step
Step 1 SEND ME YOUR STORIES NOW.
Step 2 DEBATE ON THE STORIES AND SELECT FINAL STORY
Step 3 WRITE AND RE-WRITE AND RE- WRITE AND COME UP WITH FINAL DRAFT
Step 4 FUNDRAISE(Borrow,Steal,Sposnsorship,Distributor funded,Rich Fathers etc)
Step 4 SELECT CREW AND CAST AS PER BUDGET AND LOCATIONS(PREPRODUCTION)
STEP 5 PRODUCTION
Step 6 POST PRODUCTION
Step 7 MARKETING AND DISTRIBUTION.

Many problems will come not just the ones yall mentioned and lets face them as we get them( with a lithe foresight obviously)
Finally if we have to dream lets dream big. Lets dream of a 'practical' moving film that will get the right funding, that will drive people to the cinemas and buy copies. That my dream for any film ill work on. Many small producers have made it big.Dreaming didnt cost them a thing.If yall want to make a DA type film (no disrespect inteneded) im out.
SEND ME YOUR STORIES NOW. READ STEP 1

 
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Default Script proposal? - 06-16-2004, 01:37 PM

OK I like this concept of filmmaking which seems to be similar to Project Greenlight in the US. However before any script Submissions are done I would like to point out a few things.
1. I don’t know how the copyright laws in Kenya concerning scripts work( still looking into that) but whichever Story/Concept is chosen to whom does the rights belong to.( Intellectual Property Registry).To Quote a section of the Writers Guild of America- Every time a writer is hired, sells, licenses or options literary material, a deal memo or contract should be drafted to cover the deal. Who is the legal Representative in this case. What I would suggest to anyone who wishes to submit an idea. First Seal it in a envelope, sign behind the envelope on the flap and mail it to yourself. Once received do not open that envelope, in most courts of law this postmaster stamp and date will serve as evidence to whom the written material belongs to. Thus if you submit any idea online(I would suggest this be done via email so you have a date on the out going email to show that it was sent after the mailed envelope was received and stored by you. When you write an original script on spec, you own the copyright by virtue of having created the script.
2. Once the script is chosen how will the rewrite rights be distributed. As the originator(s) of the idea how much say will you have on the rewrites and redrafts. And what will the writer director collaboration on and off set be like?
3. How will you create the proposal once the script is complete. The process of raising money is to pitch the concept. Through what channels will the raised money be directed through? Is it through a registered company because as nice as dreams are to have people would like to know how their money is being used and if an idea doesn’t pan out who is responsible? Is this company going to be taxed or will it be exempt. Another way if getting funding is not be raising monies but providing producing rights to a company that in return will agree to offer services towards the production e.g. Avis cars let you have vehicles and cover the cost of transportation. In return during advertising, marketing and distribution you can have the Avis logo appear on the product posters, flyers, tapes, DVD’s etc. The catch with this is how much creative influence the producing partner would have on the final product
4. Select crew according to budget and location- does this mean that this project is being shot in different countries? This is not even feasible at this point considering how much it would cost to obtain work permits for an actors who may have to be moved around and hosted while in the different countries. And that is not counting location permits that would have to be obtained in the other countries as well.
What format would this be shot on and are the post production-editing color corrections and audio mixing facilities for that format available in Kenya?
I will address now 5,6 and 7 later on just wanted to give my 2 cents on the script above.



>Hi Guys. Decided to be silent and see everyones view.
>Firstly I may not totally agree with Thierrys view but its
>true logistics will be a problem, but how many problems do we
>face daily and find ways around them.
>I really dont want us to get way ahead of ourselves and thats
>what has happened.Lets first write a script. The script is the
>film. A script written is half the job done. Indeed it has to
>be a practical script and logistics will be a problem for any
>script we write.We can discuss it now but no solution will
>come, since we dont have a script that will show us exactly
>which problems we will have rather than generally assuming a
>myriad of problems and solutions that may or may not be.
>NO ONE HAS SENT ME A SCRIPT, but we are all eager to talk
>about other things.I'd be happy having a script and not make
>the movie rather than no script at all. Having a Final scipt
>while doin it over the net is really a great step. Who knows,
>a time may avail itself now or later to produce it.
>
>Later at the funding stage.......we may get enough money to
>sort out logistics.With the enthusiasm I see in yall I see
>people knocking down doors of NGO's, film distributors etc and
>who knows.Lets get to that stage step by step
>Step 1 SEND ME YOUR STORIES NOW.
>Step 2 DEBATE ON THE STORIES AND SELECT FINAL STORY
>Step 3 WRITE AND RE-WRITE AND RE- WRITE AND COME UP WITH FINAL
>DRAFT
>Step 4 FUNDRAISE(Borrow,Steal,Sposnsorship,Distributor
>funded,Rich Fathers etc)
>Step 4 SELECT CREW AND CAST AS PER BUDGET AND
>LOCATIONS(PREPRODUCTION)
>STEP 5 PRODUCTION
>Step 6 POST PRODUCTION
>Step 7 MARKETING AND DISTRIBUTION.
>
>Many problems will come not just the ones yall mentioned and
>lets face them as we get them( with a lithe foresight
>obviously)
>Finally if we have to dream lets dream big. Lets dream of a
>'practical' moving film that will get the right funding, that
>will drive people to the cinemas and buy copies. That my dream
>for any film ill work on. Many small producers have made it
>big.Dreaming didnt cost them a thing.If yall want to make a DA
>type film (no disrespect inteneded) im out.
>SEND ME YOUR STORIES NOW. READ STEP 1
>
>
 
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Default Mimie... - 06-17-2004, 11:29 AM


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Well the thing is we can solve the complexities of shooting at the script level. Just have a story about ourselves in fictional characters like a movie with about seven directors in different parts of the world and telling the story of kenyans abroad vis a vis their Kenyan counterparts is a sure award winner.

That is we have to device a way to ensure that the story is told credibly and accurately without shipment of characters, we can then meet during the Movie awards and know each other, coz thats a virgin idea with alot of complexities and that alone will make us win.

As for the legal hurdles raised by Casper i feel there is an arguement when it comes to ownership of copyright but lack of debate on the issue of repartriation of thespians because of the idea i have floated above.

We can use the diplomatic rights under International law and shoot without an extra cost as for the proposal we will handle it after the script.

Yah Mimie its reversed roles..
 
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