homosexuality is observed in nature -
05-17-2008, 12:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazy boo
@Lesbiano- how many dogs/cats/carmels/donkeys/horses/baboons have you seen being f.u.kked in the ass or any of the above species of the same sex have u seen licking each others p.u.s.si.es or in males each other's d.i.c.ks?
Homosexuality is regarded as being unnatural, but that's a paradox: nature abounds in homosexual behavior in animals. At least 1,500 species have been observed engaging in this behavior, and in 500 of those it is well documented. This tendency occurs especially in social species, paticularly marine birds and mammals, monkeys and the great apes. For example, male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding.
In the case of Bonobo, the dwarf chimpanzee, the closest living species to humans, the community model is based on female solidarity and good relationships between the sexes. Sex is at the basis of their social relationships and the weakest conflict is solved through sex, no matter it the other is male or female, as part of social bonding.
It appears clearly now that for many species, like in humans, mating may not have a necessarily reproductive role. And observations made on our closest relatives, monkeys and apes, could explain the homosexual behavior in humans.
Disclaimer: I am not a proponent for homosexuality.
Homosexuality is regarded as being unnatural, but that's a paradox: nature abounds in homosexual behavior in animals. At least 1,500 species have been observed engaging in this behavior, and in 500 of those it is well documented. This tendency occurs especially in social species, paticularly marine birds and mammals, monkeys and the great apes. For example, male penguin couples have been documented to mate for life, build nests together, and to use a stone as a surrogate egg in nesting and brooding.
In the case of Bonobo, the dwarf chimpanzee, the closest living species to humans, the community model is based on female solidarity and good relationships between the sexes. Sex is at the basis of their social relationships and the weakest conflict is solved through sex, no matter it the other is male or female, as part of social bonding.
It appears clearly now that for many species, like in humans, mating may not have a necessarily reproductive role. And observations made on our closest relatives, monkeys and apes, could explain the homosexual behavior in humans.
Disclaimer: I am not a proponent for homosexuality.
why not expand your list of the "unnatural" to: liposuction, botox, laser eye surgery, hair implants, gastric bypass surgery, teeth whitening, penis enlargments, make up, choosing the sex of your child, contraceptives, toothpaste, soap, clothes, education...etc.
Reggie,
excellent point. If god created a Christian with buck teeth, it's OK for him to go the unnatural way and straighten them up via a dentist. Why doesn't he just state that this is how god wanted him to be, since that is how god created him, and therefore remain that way? Why did those in the Bible who were blind from birth - meaning that's how god created them - go to Jesus to be cured? Shouldn't they have rejoiced in the perfection of how god made them and not want to change it? Man, talk of selective reasoning.
It's also interesting how there are those saying god could not have created gays. So it doesn't surprise these same people that god created Satan, the Ebola virus, the malaria parasite, cancer-causing conditions, genetic defects that leave somebody f.ucked for life, etc. But it totally surprises them that he could have made someone who has a preference for the same sex. WTF?
How many times do we need to state gay is disgusting or...even I repeat Kemi's view point-Unnnatural!
Does something become wrong just because it's unnatural or disgusting to you?
@Lesbiano- how many dogs/cats/carmels/donkeys/horses/baboons have you seen being f.u.kked in the ass or any of the above species of the same sex have u seen licking each others p.u.s.si.es or in males each other's d.i.c.ks?
OK, you shouldn't compare yourself to animals in an argument. And regarding the "how man ... of the above species of the same sex have u seen licking each others p.u.s.si.es or in males each other's d.i.c.ks" question, kwani have you ever seen a male warthog lick a female warthog's p.ussy? Come on, you honestly can't use such an example in an intellectual argument.
I am sorry I cannt help it, I am homophobic
Well, just like the self confessed tribalists and racists and chauvinists, why should the world bend over backwards to accommodate your bigoted view-points? I always ask homophobes this one question: Give me just one example of how legalizing gay marriage would harm you or personally affect you?
If the energy people waste on expressing their homophobia was directed towards curing world hunger, there would be no hungry African kids by now!
research studies in the 1980’s and 90’s showed that two categories of men became arouse when shown erotic images of other males: self declared gay men and homophobes.
I heard about that. It's interesting (according to that study) that the most aggressive homophobes are most likely the ones who are closeted gays. The reason for their extreme public display of homophobia is that they are so scared and ashamed of their potential gayness that in public they do everything to portray themselves as an anti-gay man.
A classic example is Col. Fitts, that neighbor of Kevin Spacey in "American Beauty". The guy was an extreme homophobe, and we later learnt that it's because he was gay.
Or Pastor Ted Haggard, the Denver pastor who was the chairman of the US Pastors Association, and a leading critic against gay marriage and homosexuality. We later learnt that he was gay and he had a 3 year relationship with some male prostitute.
Or senator Larry Craig... As a senator, he was in the Senate Ethics Committee, he led the crusade against those other senators caught up in gay scandals, he pushed the bills to make gay marriage and gay unions and gay rights illegal, etc. He was very very anti-gay. He happens to be the senator who was found playing footsie in the men's bathroom at the Minneapolis airport. Through this scandal, he was revealed to be very gay, having had numerous gay relationships since college.
All these guys above make me look at the most homophobic Mashadites and wonder if they have a secret double-life that they are very ashamed of...
Seriously? Did you think before just typing away this statement?
What evidence do you have that criminals and people who go and shoot up a whole school were raised by gay people? Please don't just spawn verbal diarrhoea...for f.ucks sake use google...find research to support such sh.it before saying it. My granny always used to say if you are stupid shut your mouth than open it to confirm that you are...
Research has been done and children raised by gay parents male to male or female to female grow up into law abiding citizens who are open minded. Most don't turn out to be gay at all. There are of course a few who go the wrong way normally depending on the child's character. Nothing to do with who raised the, Children need love and guidance and they will grow up to be fine.
Some talk about the father figure issue when it comes to two females raising a child... fuc.k. that most of ya'll moffoz were raised by single mothers...are you fu.cked up? NO!
Lots of male role models in a child's life in form of relatives...
machungu ya nini bro? can't you express your opinion without insults? or are you gay? seems like a defensive mechanism (insults).
am not a psychologist, but it seems your are in pain bro!you call others stupid but it seems to me as a neutral audience that you are more stupid
TRESSPASSERS WILL BE SHOT AND SURVIVORS WILL BE SHOT AGAIN
Intersting discussion, i am a reforming homophobe. Only reason i'm against gay people is I dont want my kids to one day think its ok to be gay, honestly i'd rather have straight kids. Other than that, I have no probs with gay people.Lesbiana, nice discussion.
ATLian, are you gay? Or just very open minded?
Kemi, penis or not, a woman has a right to have a child.
crazy boo, gay marriage does not equal butt sex...
"if you're against same sex marriage, don't get married to the same sex" -Wanda Wykes
You are now taking me in circles. I did not say a woman doesnt have a choice, I simply offered a rebuttal to your argument and it was not about choice, was it?
And your last point is circular. If am against same sex marriage, I'm not only going to marry an opposite sex member. I'm also going to say no, same sex people shouldnt marry at the voting booth and so on. So if you recognize why I'm against gays, then threads like these shouldnt exist since we all seem to have an agreement that the act is abhorable and as such i have the choice to reject it or not.
reggie, excellent point. If god created a christian with buck teeth, it's ok for him to go the unnatural way and straighten them up via a dentist. Why doesn't he just state that this is how god wanted him to be, since that is how god created him, and therefore remain that way? why did those in the bible who were blind from birth - meaning that's how god created them - go to jesus to be cured? shouldn't they have rejoiced in the perfection of how god made them and not want to change it? man, talk of selective reasoning. It's also interesting how there are those saying god could not have created gays. So it doesn't surprise these same people that god created satan, the ebola virus, the malaria parasite, cancer-causing conditions, genetic defects that leave somebody f.ucked for life, etc. But it totally surprises them that he could have made someone who has a preference for the same sex. Wtf?
it is not selective reasoning, it is your twisted reasoning. We all know that a person was created to have straight teeth. Having non-straight teeth is an abnormality and one can choose to straighten them or leave them crooked. We all know that people were created with eyes to see. Being blind is an abnormality and etc. We all know the vagina and penis were created where and how they are for a purpose. Homosexuality therefore is not the same as what you listed above in that it creates an abnormality out of normality by changing things from how they were supposed to be to how they are not supposed to be.
Satan was not created to be evil. He was created as an arch angel. It is SATAn who CHOSE to be evil. If God had created homos, he would have created mechanisms for the same. Homos choose and I bet God has nothing to do with their choice-making.
Knowledge by hand and mind
Last edited by KEMINOKANA : 05-17-2008 at 07:45 PM.
homosexuality is observed in nature -
05-17-2008, 12:04 PM
Linear Mode
