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Default When will Kenyans ever see themselves as East Africans? - 06-26-2007, 03:51 AM

Here is some thought provoking insight. http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynati...&newsid=101022

I was born to a Kenyan Father and Ugandan mother. I also married a Ugandan, my brothers married Kenyans. My Aunt married a Tanzanian. Many like us are yearning for this rebirth of the wider EAC that might be a welcome end to all the politicised tribalism Kenya is suffering. I certainly do not feel my vote is biased by tribal inclinations. What do you think?
 
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Default 06-27-2007, 02:39 AM

the article is talking about asians???
 


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Default 06-29-2007, 04:58 AM

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the article is talking about asians???
Thats the point exactly. We keep seeing ourselves as Kikuyu, Luo, Kamba Kisii, Asians etc. hence the Mungikis. Talibans, Jeshi la mzee every time elections are round the corner. Lets think Kenyan or as an East African (Gaddafi always wanted us to think as Africans but thats a long shot away I guess).
 
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Thats the point exactly. We keep seeing ourselves as Kikuyu, Luo, Kamba Kisii, Asians etc. hence the Mungikis. Talibans, Jeshi la mzee every time elections are round the corner. Lets think Kenyan or as an East African (Gaddafi always wanted us to think as Africans but thats a long shot away I guess).
do you know how hard that is for Kenyans?
 


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Default when - 07-01-2007, 11:09 PM

still the same ,dont u think so
 
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Default 08-29-2007, 12:09 PM

I could not get thru to read that article but I think You brought up an interesting point.
The EAC Integration thing is a good idea, however I know TZ people are not too thrilled about it. I hear thay do not like Kenyans down there for some reason.

As for Asians, it's even hard to consider them full kenyans or kenyans at all.ask me why ?
They keep to themselves in isolation and do not integrate with the majority black kenyans.

How do you live in a country that your forefathers came as immigrants and 4 generations down the line:

1. you haven't integrated
2. Isolate yourselves from the majority population of the "host" country-yes you are not yet viewed as full kenyan.
3. Take your Kids to Asian schools in your host country thereby minimizing the chances of your kids interaction with other communities.

When I meet someone of asian origin abroad and they say they from kenya, It's hard to tell the differnce between him/her and an indian from India.

You've been in kenya for generations but still have a thick indian accent- not saying it's wrong but it just shows that you are not fully assimilated into your host country.

Even in America Immigrants integrate fully by the second and third generation and they are still proud of their immigrant roots whether jamaican, african, italian, irish. It's not to say that you loose your identity, no, but that you have the best of both worlds.

I just find it hard to reconcile the fact that asians who live in kenya claim to be kenyan but bear no similarity.

You don't even talk the language.
Sunny Bindra had an excellent article here :Sunwords.com » Articles » Kenya ‘Damu’?
 
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Default 08-29-2007, 01:30 PM

Preach ilugu PREACH!!!!
 


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Default 08-29-2007, 04:18 PM

Hear hear...valid points ilugu.
 
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Default 08-29-2007, 08:19 PM

When will Kenyans ever see themselves as East Africans?
when they open their eyes and see that they country is going down, and that they r racist
 
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Default 08-30-2007, 11:07 PM

[quote=ilugu;455456]I could not get thru to read that article but I think You brought up an interesting point.
The EAC Integration thing is a good idea, however I know TZ people are not too thrilled about it. I hear thay do not like Kenyans down there for some reason.


They dont like Kenyans because they say Kenyans are just too rude and it's true.
 
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