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05-18-2008, 08:00 AM
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so what, exactly is the problem with ktn/standard? i hear a lot of whining, but not actual problems? i'm not attacking, i'm just curious to know from akina 74. Your input please.
KTN is an intruiging phenomenon in the media industry.
As far as corporate culture goes, it has one of the most conducive environments for nurturing talented media personnel - and a source for raiding employees for Nation, Citizen, et al.
At one point in the late 90's-early 2000's, standard was so badly off that it used to buy paper from Nation because it couldn't afford the minimum quantity set by suppliers. But through innovation and creativity, it overcame its financial handicaps.
Between them, Nation and Standard have the publishing market sewn up tight - from publishing to distribution. They are a guargantan duopoly. The only individual whose challenged them and lived to tell the story is Nairobi Star's Patrick Quarco.
The Standard Group's market-sensitive executives noticed the euphoria, the numbers, the loyal supporters of the Orange Democratic Movement and skewed its reporting to lean more on that side. From the heady days of the referendum, their objectivity has been all but non-existent.
Despite this, sounding the death knell on the Standard is foolhardy. Contrary to that, it will thrive. Remember, the standard was the first paper to introduce a daily magazine pullout (Crazy Monday, Financial Standard, Inspiration, Pulse etc). The copycat that is Nation soon followed suit. This kind of creative innovation will always ensure that the Standard Group is ahead of its game.
Standard has been around for over 100 years old - and like fine wine, it seems to grow better (and stronger) with age!
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05-18-2008, 09:34 AM
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Look at today's lead story. Just a sensational pseudoanalysis of a complex issue that leaves you with a memory of a standard 7 essay. You wonder what they will benefit with if the coalition breaks down.
Signs of trouble
Raila factor in Obama contest
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total crap by standard...it's become more of s gutter press reporting on hearsay and future predictions
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05-18-2008, 10:00 AM
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total crap by standard...it's become more of s gutter press reporting on hearsay and future predictions
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Interesting observation, Mr. Kajwang.
You see, as a former operative in the gutter press, I was privy to some rather unsavoury interactions with members of the established press. They trashed our ten-bob rags as mere hogwash and said that it they would be doing us a huge favour if they were to use our publications as tissue!
Surprisingly, the editorial style we were using way back in 2001 is what the mainstream newspapers have adopted TODAY. Even the newbie, Nairobi Star, has picked up on this habit.
The funny thing about it all, Kajwang, is that the public laps it up like a gourmet dinner!
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05-18-2008, 10:40 AM
Blogeratti, you're input is interesting. Is it true that they're a springboard for other stations? I guess I hadn't looked at it like that. The Nairobi Star, in my opinion, kind of shook up the atmosphere. Kinda juggled the playing field a bit, don't you think?
I did not have sexual relations with that woman...her sister, maybe!
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05-19-2008, 04:59 AM
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So what, exactly is the problem with KTN/Standard? I hear a lot of whining, but not actual problems? I'm not attacking, I'm just curious to know from akina 74. Your input please. 
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I will give you a few thoughts on this.
The standard has fallen below a certain level of acceptability in reason and substance
Just from the article that wamax74. refers to, there is a lot to fault the EA Standard, mainly in reason.
First they try to to equate the coalition government with the secret MoU of 2002. The current tranparently formed government and the positions of the Prime Minister etc are now constitutional, and Kibaki is sworn as the ultimate protector of the constitution with Raila also sworn in in a capacity that ensures proper execution (executive PM). Not so for the MoU which could be disregarded without any legal implications.
The two partners (ODM on one side and PNU partnership with ODM-K, Kanu, Safina, Ford K, Sisi kwa Sisi, Narc K etc on the other side) are at liberty to withdraw from the coalition but the repercussions are the end of the government of national unity, and will almost certainly lead to new elections.
The content of the accord was also in the public domain at the time of signing.
Secondly, on the issue of amnesty, EA Standard has tried to jumble matters so much as to hide the real issues. They are trying to make the matter of suspected killers and arsonists in RV appear an ODM matter, with Ruto requesting for the unconditional release of the suspects.
What is impunity?
To simplify, the core of impunity is the second part im-punity. This is basically related to English words that you know such as punishment and punitive measures. An action that is taken in order to curtail misdeeds by applying a cost on the perpetrator, whether by monetary fine, restricting his freedoms by jailing or incarceration, or causing him any other costs such as inflicting severe discomfort by the strokes of a cane, hard labour or even taking away his life as in capital punishment.
Of course the punishment must be commensurate with the crime committed. If we start allowing crimes to be committed for political reasons, then can we allow. ODM has been acting with impunity and is seeking more impunity.
The truth is that the ODM grassroots were quite shabby, and since then worked with impunity and by encouraging such misdeeds, then Kenya is doomed.
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05-19-2008, 08:09 AM
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try to grow. its healthy for at this point. Standard is here to stay. Standard is not citizen or kameme.
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yea, ktn is the most politically-influenced. i call it Kisumu Town News. it cant compare to any other ... may b kass-fm.
 will power sharing add anything to your menu?? fanya kazi. 
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jealeousy look at daily nation gutter press CEO's paying you to post propaganda -
05-19-2008, 12:11 PM
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Yeah. They are paying the price of ignoring common sense and focusing on partisan issues.
Read their piece of crap here.
''....the appointments were critical at this time when the company is undergoing tremendous transformation.''
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Nation Media Group: CEO - Linus Gitahi (From Nyeri)
Editorial Director - Wangethi Mwangi (Murang'a)
Managing Editor (Daily Nation) - Bernard Nderitu ( Kiambu)
Managing Editor (Sunday Nation) - Mutuma Mathiu (Meru)
Managing Editor (Business Daily) - Nick Wachira (Nyeri)
Managing Editor (Daily Metro) - Julius Maina (Not sure which part of Central)
Managing Editor (Taifa) - Wainaina Kiganya (A Kikuyu from Kangemi)
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05-20-2008, 11:29 AM
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Blogeratti, you're input is interesting. Is it true that they're a springboard for other stations? I guess I hadn't looked at it like that. The Nairobi Star, in my opinion, kind of shook up the atmosphere. Kinda juggled the playing field a bit, don't you think?
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Nairobi Star and Quarco are a spanner in the works for Standard and Nation.
If wasn't for Mr. Moneybags Aga Khan, Nation would be but a memory. By aggressive head-hunting, it has managed to prune the pick of the media fraternity crop into its stable. But as far as nurturing talent goes, Nation is the university of dead ends.
Quarco has the deep pockets and the street savvy it took to muscle in on the big two - and an eye for talent. I understand that all the former Nation staffers who had eagerly jumped ship to Nairobi Star were shown the door - for their inability to deliver.
You're right, Cinoman. Nairobi Star is in a class of its own. But, in my humble opinion, all Quarco did was to add the glitter to the gutter and viola! Nairobi Star was born!
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05-20-2008, 02:03 PM
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Nairobi Star and Quarco are a spanner in the works for Standard and Nation.
If wasn't for Mr. Moneybags Aga Khan, Nation would be but a memory. By aggressive head-hunting, it has managed to prune the pick of the media fraternity crop into its stable. But as far as nurturing talent goes, Nation is the university of dead ends.
Quarco has the deep pockets and the street savvy it took to muscle in on the big two - and an eye for talent. I understand that all the former Nation staffers who had eagerly jumped ship to Nairobi Star were shown the door - for their inability to deliver.
You're right, Cinoman. Nairobi Star is in a class of its own. But, in my humble opinion, all Quarco did was to add the glitter to the gutter and viola! Nairobi Star was born!
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I don't really equate the Nairobi Star with good journalism. Rather, I equate its arrival on the scene to...a spanner in the works of other media houses. Now, I think the debate is getting warped about Nation & KTN and their tribal basing. That shouldn't be the case. Ktn had some talk show on land jana with Ruto and Gibson Kamau Kuria. I thought it was quite balanced...I may be wrong.
I did not have sexual relations with that woman...her sister, maybe!
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05-20-2008, 03:33 PM
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Nation Media Group: CEO - Linus Gitahi (From Nyeri)
Editorial Director - Wangethi Mwangi (Murang'a)
Managing Editor (Daily Nation) - Bernard Nderitu ( Kiambu)
Managing Editor (Sunday Nation) - Mutuma Mathiu (Meru)
Managing Editor (Business Daily) - Nick Wachira (Nyeri)
Managing Editor (Daily Metro) - Julius Maina (Not sure which part of Central)
Managing Editor (Taifa) - Wainaina Kiganya (A Kikuyu from Kangemi)
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doesn't this prove a point that kiuks(read Nation) can run a business more smartly than kales(read std)???
also look @ moi's 28yr rule when kaleos were ruling class, the country went on it's knees begging for aid and all that, 4 - 5 years when kiuks return to power, we got a booming economy which the kaleos have decided to sabotage again....
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