[chambiboy]

Hon Kajwang should not be asking for more funds due to the fact that his ministry generates thousands of shillings per day in its day to day activities. More over, His ministry lacks technological development and this lender it inefficient in its operation. He should think out of the box and get to know what should be done to streamline various operations in this ministry and also utilize incomes generated by the ministry to rectify faulty areas. It’s totally pathetic

[dorinea]

he does not know what he is really supposed to do. he should swallow his pride

[Kabunja wa Gathuita]

Originally Posted by chambiboy

Hon Kajwang should not be asking for more funds due to the fact that his ministry generates thousands of shillings per day in its day to day activities. More over, His ministry lacks technological development and this lender it inefficient in its operation. He should think out of the box and get to know what should be done to streamline various operations in this ministry and also utilize incomes generated by the ministry to rectify faulty areas. It’s totally pathetic

Why do you start to list what could be done in the ministry, may be this can help Kajwang to start thinking out of the box

[Kabunja wa Gathuita]

Originally Posted by dorinea

he does not know what he is really supposed to do. he should swallow his pride

Swallowing the pride is easier said than done! But again, what has the man not done that he should have done in 2 weeks since he was appointed for the first time in cabinet? You may have a point and a reason for it, but unless you come out clear (I guess you and Chamiboy who seem to be one and the same) and state your point, it is worthless to say Kajwang should swallow his pride

[Luoliability]

Originally Posted by Kabunja wa Gathuita

Swallowing the pride is easier said than done! But again, what has the man not done that he should have done in 2 weeks since he was appointed for the first time in cabinet? You may have a point and a reason for it, but unless you come out clear (I guess you and Chamiboy who seem to be one and the same) and state oyur point, it is worthless to say Kajwang should swallow his pride

He was not appointed with a view of him solicitating ideas from any ojuang', kamau and ruto. He was appointed to deliver services to all..
Chamiboy is not Kajuang's think tank. It would be good if the minister can get ideas from outside his box by using others' ideas (Outside the box = outside his skull) but he needs to start somewehere.
Otherwise any fool can be made a minister because there are people out there to think for the guy.
Can a castrated bull marry a heifer simply because other bulls in the village will do the work?

[Socrates]

Originally Posted by chambiboy

Hon Kajwang should not be asking for more funds due to the fact that his ministry generates thousands of shillings per day in its day to day activities. More over, His ministry lacks technological development and this lender it inefficient in its operation. He should think out of the box and get to know what should be done to streamline various operations in this ministry and also utilize incomes generated by the ministry to rectify faulty areas. It’s totally pathetic

Please, the money Kajwang's Ministry collects is not used to fund its operations. It is remitted to the treasury.

Please enda Ngumbaru and learn something about Revenue collection!

[Kabunja wa Gathuita]

Originally Posted by Luoliability

He was not appointed with a view of him solicitating ideas from any ojuang', kamau and ruto. He was appointed to deliver services to all..
Chamiboy is not Kajuang's think tank. It would be good if the minister can get ideas from outside his box by using others' ideas (Outside the box = outside his skull) but he needs to start somewehere.
Otherwise any fool can be made a minister because there are people out there to think for the guy.
Can a castrated bull marry a heifer simply because other bulls in the village will do the work?

Got you Luoliabiliy (and I presume you are the original). But at this point, my argument was that it is too early to start asking a minister to swallow his pride.

[TikTok]

Originally Posted by Kabunja wa Gathuita

Got you Luoliabiliy (and I presume you are the original). But at this point, my argument was that it is too early to start asking a minister to swallow his pride.

You know what Kabunja, one should not argue for arguments sake. chambiboy and luoliability criticised Kajwang without offering alternatives. That is poor debating. If they think Kajwang' is not thinking out of the box, they should have listed the things that kajwang is doing the same as before vs. what someone in Kajwang's place could have done differently.

You are right to say two weeks isn't enough to start judging somebody. I normally wait for 3 months to start seeing effects of a good policy and 6 months to 1 year to really start seeing the repurcussions of the same. If my memory serves me right, there are three things Kajwang' promised to do differently and he mentioned them on the first week.

1. All document applications will carry serial numbers and the names of the officers handling them in the different stages for traceability. This never existed before and files were prone to "going missing" only to resurface when kitu kidogo has been paid. This time around if say my 30 days for getting an ID is over and I raise hell, Kajwang' and his team would simply have someone to hold accountable for.

2. Unlike before where there never existed deadlines or the deadlines were not reinforced, Kajwang' has set aggressive deadlines of 30 days for ID applicants within Nairobi and 40 for outside Nairobi. You all remember deadlines only applied to passport applicants and those could be ignored by officers at will. Now after 30 days, if you do not get your ID someone's ass is on fire. I propose he goes further and says you can get a refund of all your monies plus a free document processing if it is found that the officers were negligent in their duty.

3. The use of new technology to inform clients about teh ststus of their documents as it progresses through the passport or ID procurement chain. This is revolutionaery given that Kenya is low tech compared to countries like South Korea and SIngapore. In the latter countries one can trace progress via online government web page similar to the one DHL uses for tracking AWB numbers. In Kenya, Kajwang' has gone a step further and removed teh hustle of the internet due to its low penetration rate and went directly to SMS which has high penetration rate.

If the above three and I'm sure more are in the pipeline are not thinking out of the box, then please list for us many more ideas that would qualify as "thinking out of the box". Remember, it is these simple delta chnages that bring huge results.

[teejay]

Tik Tok well said brother. I have even sent an introduction letter to the ministry in preparation for any tenders that may be sent out for supply of computers and accessories, ever since OK talked of revolutionizing the ministry technologically. These people like to critic for the sake of it.

Good criticism offers sound alternative ideals. If Luoliability thinks OK is not thinking outside the box, then what is preventing them from approaching the minister with their worthy opinion? After all ODM promised to be an accessible government. We can only know the credibility of this claim if and when Luolibility and Co pays the minister a visit.

Kenya is yours and mine, bring your opinion and I bring my idea so we can prosper.

[kiptur]

[QUOTE=TikTok;662923]You know what Kabunja, one should not argue for arguments jwang's place could have done sake. chambiboy and luoliability criticised Kajwang without offering alternatives. That is poor debating. If they think Kajwang' is not thinking out of the box, they should have listed the things that kajwang is doing the same as before vs. what someone in Kadifferently.

For the first time in mashada i have agreed with tiktok.and just to deviate alittle bit from the thread, let me say we should apply the same principle in IDP issue. lets not talk about land injustices while still hundreds of thousands of kenyans (idp) are still leaving outside i the cold with the post traumatic stress of loosing their loved ones and hard earned properties.

back to the topic, one good thing about kajwang is that he is well educated and very eloquent i hope he will do something positive to the country but on the other side of the coin,he should be handled with caution coz he is a thief-he stole his clients money as a lawyer,mmmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhh.