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Default Raila is double casting - 05-12-2008, 07:03 AM

Raila want to be the prime minister and at the same time opposition leader since he has never enjoyed one and now that he got both he is wondering which one to take. why else is he trying to prevent his ODM mps from being part of opposition?
 
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Default 05-12-2008, 07:17 AM

Watch this space,
let the official opposition bill be made into law, all those rookie MPs jostling for the perks will sign on the dotted line to become members and they will automatically lose their parliamentary seats.

If you doubt me, remember that both the Speaker and Deputy speaker are from ODM. You must walk the talk.
 


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Default 05-12-2008, 07:45 AM

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Watch this space,
let the official opposition bill be made into law, all those rookie MPs jostling for the perks will sign on the dotted line to become members and they will automatically lose their parliamentary seats.

If you doubt me, remember that both the Speaker and Deputy speaker are from ODM. You must walk the talk.
what we r saying is, raila wants to replicate idi amini.
if kibaki and raila could agree to form a grand coalition govt (put in another language, do away with opposition) and got support from other mps, why cant he support others in agreeing to form a grand opposition? the grand opposition will not be by odm mps; rather from a pool of mps from both sides. why is he so much afraid of opposition this time?
 


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what we r saying is, raila wants to replicate idi amini.
if kibaki and raila could agree to form a grand coalition govt (put in another language, do away with opposition) and got support from other mps, why cant he support others in agreeing to form a grand opposition? the grand opposition will not be by odm mps; rather from a pool of mps from both sides. why is he so much afraid of opposition this time?
It's actually quite simple, all those MPs who want to be part of the grand coalition opposition can simply defect from their individual parties and join Jirongo's KADDU.

When Raila defected from Ford-Kenya, he resigned from his parliamentary seat and moved to NDP through which he contested and won the ensuing by-election, he walked the talk!

Why then are these others hiding behind the expedience of legislation? That very legislation will send them home.
 


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It's actually quite simple, all those MPs who want to be part of the grand coalition opposition can simply defect from their individual parties and join Jirongo's KADDU.

When Raila defected from Ford-Kenya, he resigned from his parliamentary seat and moved to NDP through which he contested and won the ensuing by-election, he walked the talk!

Why then are these others hiding behind the expedience of legislation? That very legislation will send them home.
did he defect in 2001 when he joined kanu? remember his NDP was whole swallowed by the jogoo then.
forgetting that, if some members of two major parties in kenya can form a grand coalition, then members from the same parties can also form a grand opposition. lets avoid double standards. and as Ababu said, in the Annan agreement, there was nothing like grand opposition. that doesnt mean it cant be formed!
my q is, y is raila so afraid of an opposition which he has always championed? what is it that he knows and unknown to some members, some in govt who r proponents of the opposition?
 


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did he defect in 2001 when he joined kanu? remember his NDP was whole swallowed by the jogoo then.
forgetting that, if some members of two major parties in kenya can form a grand coalition, then members from the same parties can also form a grand opposition. lets avoid double standards. and as Ababu said, in the Annan agreement, there was nothing like grand opposition. that doesnt mean it cant be formed!
my q is, y is raila so afraid of an opposition which he has always championed? what is it that he knows and unknown to some members, some in govt who r proponents of the opposition?
In 2001, he followed the law strictly which requires that if a party's MPs are to join another party, then that party must enter into a formal merger with the other failure to which the MPs of the former will lose their seats.

To break it down, the frustrated MPs have 3 legal options:
1. they can remain in their individual parties and provide internal opposition,
2. they can defect from their parties and join Jirongo's KADDU,
3. they can form a new formal opposition as they want to,
Note that in the two final options they will certainly lose their seats.

Raila is simply advising the MPs on the folly of their plans. What, pray tell me, will the formal opposition achieve for the MPs that they cannot achieve while in their individual parties. If you can decode that, then you will understand the answer to your question.
 


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Default Why not concentrate on your mungiki shiate heads first:) pnu mouth piece!! - 05-12-2008, 11:00 AM

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raila has been opposing all the govts, whether he is part of it or not. Yet he doesnt want his govt to be opposed. What plans does he have without the opposition? why does he want to run a govt with no checks? who has been the number one opposer of everything in kenya if not him? shame, shame, shame on u raila. Run ur office and leave the other mps. Whether they form a grand opposition or not is not ur biz! play ur part to give kenya ur promises. I have said again and again, that raila is an idi-amini replica, with intensified selfish dictatorship.

why are you bothered with odm?? has the mungiki murderers defeated kibaki and his pnu cronies??? go settle your idp's and soon mungiki will be patrolling and extorting money from the whole of central province and we look forward to all of your women being circumcised
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Default Missed call aka dr . Rage! how arrogant and conceated can one be?? just like a kikuyu - 05-12-2008, 11:16 AM

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missed call, i just have to tell you this. Your posts are always prophetic. You always see very far and your are quite lucid and succinct. I always enjoy reading you posts as they seem to touch me the correct places. If you were near me, i would give you a huuuge wet snog, my orientation not withstanding. I also pray to our almighty to improve on your wisdom, that he has bestowed on you so generously. You are one in a million and your level of reasoning is on a genius level. You think like the three wise men plus one. Thank you for brightening mashada.
missed call aka dr. Rage!! everyone knows you are the same person!! how concerted and arrogant can you get to heap praises on yourself?? what does that tell us of your self esteemed?? 0% i'm not surprised since this is the usual kikuyu trend praise one self until you feel important!! how pathetic can one get you need dr. Francis njenga to administer some prozac for you
 
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missed call aka dr. Rage!! everyone knows you are the same person!! how concerted and arrogant can you get to heap praises on yourself?? what does that tell us of your self esteemed?? 0% i'm not surprised since this is the usual kikuyu trend praise one self until you feel important!! how pathetic can one get you need dr. Francis njenga to administer some prozac for you
nice observation ... i must say.
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