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Policies do not necessary have to be handled in parliament. But while eating, if the policies are addressed and seem to be supported by some groundwork, the better. And the groundwork is in many aspects!

But I am yet to be convinced that after throwing stones I should be paid back by a piece of loaf and fish!

If I threw a stone, burnt a vehicle or looted a shop because I wanted change - and that change as a young man is supposed to assure bread and fish in my everyday menu, how will a one day party benefit me then?

My mum was supporting me to be part of the agitation for change because she had been walking miles to get clean water. My brother can't sell his bamboo fishing baskets because the road to the market is impassable. My uncle gets a raw deal from the fishing co-op because the middle-man is greedy and nothing they can do to the middleman cause they have no refrigeration facilities nor access to market where they can sell their products at a higher price. My sister who helped in supplying water for rioters teargassed in Kibera is at home with her two toddlers. She has no skills or capital to at least start her own secure livelihood. And the two toddlers may be at risk of several communicable but prevetable/curable diseases. And the list is long.

Despite people from other regions having indigestion even before Nyanza eats, how will the one-day eating support my family!

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It is true, but how can my uncle profit from a fish procesing plant built in Kikuyu land instead where the fish is produced? How can the road be passable when the funds allocated to construct road in my region construct road in kikuyu land?How can my sister get skills when there are peole trying to down grade luos education?How can my brother get a good deal from fishing co-op when the middle man is a greedy,corrupt Kikuyu man?
 
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it is true, but how can my uncle profit from a fish procesing plant built in kikuyu land instead where the fish is produced? how can the road be passable when the funds allocated to construct road in my region construct road in kikuyu land?how can my sister get skills when there are peole trying to down grade luos education?how can my brother get a good deal from fishing co-op when the middle man is a greedy,corrupt kikuyu man?
kikuyu must be laughing their hearts out to hear you blaming them for your sister's lack of skillsseriously you are joking, how do you expect them to impact skills to your siz?blame raila

building of roads?i must defend kikuyus bacause from 1978 to 2002 they were in opposition,for good 24 yrs, so i wonder how they stopped roads from being built in nyanza. Your uncle can profit from fish processing if he builds his own processing plant or buys shares in one;simple business concept you dont need to be a rocket scientist to know that.

Your brother can not suffer from greedy,corrupt kikuyu middle man if he sells his -fish to his fellow luos-see simple logic willing seller, willing buyer.so bro why blame the kiuk middle man?

now am asking you, what do you think kiuks thinks of you when you blame them for all of the above when in reality the problem starts with you?

we have never heard your mp's raise issues in parliament that affect you people,they are busy serving the interest of raila. Can nyanza mp's act independently from raila without fearing for their re-election?

In short nyanza lacks diversity of leadership opinion because it's like raila is the mp for the whole nyanza costistuencies.the real mp's are just there. No leadership diversity at all. Conclusion ;blame yourselves or continue whining about the kiuks while time is running out
 


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Default oh shut up go deal with your idps and mungiki's- i guess kikuyu's are laughing too - 05-11-2008, 06:49 PM

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kikuyu must be laughing their hearts out to hear you blaming them for your sister's lack of skillsseriously you are joking, how do you expect them to impact skills to your siz?blame raila building of roads?i must defend kikuyus bacause from 1978 to 2002 they were in opposition,for good 24 yrs, so i wonder how they stopped roads from being built in nyanza. Your uncle can profit from fish processing if he builds his own processing plant or buys shares in one-simple business concept you dont need to be a rocket scientist to know that. Your brother can not suffer from greedy,corrupt kikuyu middle man if he sells his -fish to his fellow luos-see simple logic willing seller, willing buyer.so bro why blame the kiuk middle man? now am asking you, what do you think kiuks thinks of you when you blame them for all of the above when in reality the problem starts with you? we have never heard your mp's raise issues in parliament that affect you people,they are busy serving the interest of raila. Can nyanza mp's act independently from raila without fearing for their re-election? in short nyanza lacks diversity of leadership opinion because it's like raila is the mp for the whole nyanza costistuencies.the real mp's are just there. No leadership diversity at all. Conclusion ;blame yourselves or continue whining about the kiuks while time is running out
you have become a bore and a winning foolish central province mouth piece!!go deal with your mungiki menace like the church leaders are advising and your IDP'S!! SHENZI WEWE!!

 
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[quote=Miscellaneous;662112]you have become a bore and a winning foolish central province mouth piece!!go deal with your mungiki menace like the church leaders are advising and your IDP'S!! SHENZI WEWE!!

Infact am wishing i can bore you to death while am continuing winning as you have indicated
 


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you have become a bore and a winning foolish central province mouth piece!!go deal with your mungiki menace like the church leaders are advising and your IDP'S!! SHENZI WEWE!!

Infact am wishing i can bore you to death while am continuing winning as you have indicated
why not go read Dr .Rages post? maybe you might get some sense in your tiny brain than spewing filth and hate about Raila and other tribes on here!!I sincerely pity you!!
 
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why not go read dr .rages post? maybe you might get some sense in your tiny brain than spewing filth and hate about raila and other tribes on here!!i sincerely pity you!!
i dont think your advice can be of any value to a person of my calibre ,just reserve them to yourself. Dont pity me coz am satisfied with the way iam, rather pity those thousands of jobless souls and humanity that lined for the whole day to have free meal from hon.raila
 


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kikuyu must be laughing their hearts out to hear you blaming them for your sister's lack of skillsseriously you are joking, how do you expect them to impact skills to your siz?blame raila building of roads?i must defend kikuyus bacause from 1978 to 2002 they were in opposition,for good 24 yrs, so i wonder how they stopped roads from being built in nyanza. Your uncle can profit from fish processing if he builds his own processing plant or buys shares in one-simple business concept you dont need to be a rocket scientist to know that. Your brother can not suffer from greedy,corrupt kikuyu middle man if he sells his -fish to his fellow luos-see simple logic willing seller, willing buyer.so bro why blame the kiuk middle man? now am asking you, what do you think kiuks thinks of you when you blame them for all of the above when in reality the problem starts with you? we have never heard your mp's raise issues in parliament that affect you people,they are busy serving the interest of raila. Can nyanza mp's act independently from raila without fearing for their re-election? in short nyanza lacks diversity of leadership opinion because it's like raila is the mp for the whole nyanza costistuencies.the real mp's are just there. No leadership diversity at all. Conclusion ;blame yourselves or continue whining about the kiuks while time is running out
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Default They can't stand Raila - 05-11-2008, 11:34 PM

Is it only me or what? I find Kenyans to be the most argumentative people I have ever come across....
And whenever a Kenyan disagrees with your viewpoint, he is more likely to call you stupid, or will tell you how many degrees he thinks he has and you don't. What you eat, drink, drive, say..who u sleep with...are likely to ache their tumies...

No wonder what is happening around the Lake is giving some people in Central insomnia
 
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kikuyu must be laughing their hearts out to hear you blaming them for your sister's lack of skillsseriously you are joking, how do you expect them to impact skills to your siz?blame raila

building of roads?i must defend kikuyus bacause from 1978 to 2002 they were in opposition,for good 24 yrs, so i wonder how they stopped roads from being built in nyanza. Your uncle can profit from fish processing if he builds his own processing plant or buys shares in one;simple business concept you dont need to be a rocket scientist to know that.

Your brother can not suffer from greedy,corrupt kikuyu middle man if he sells his -fish to his fellow luos-see simple logic willing seller, willing buyer.so bro why blame the kiuk middle man?

now am asking you, what do you think kiuks thinks of you when you blame them for all of the above when in reality the problem starts with you?

we have never heard your mp's raise issues in parliament that affect you people,they are busy serving the interest of raila. Can nyanza mp's act independently from raila without fearing for their re-election?

In short nyanza lacks diversity of leadership opinion because it's like raila is the mp for the whole nyanza costistuencies.the real mp's are just there. No leadership diversity at all. Conclusion ;blame yourselves or continue whining about the kiuks while time is running out
The Kiuks can laugh now but Jah-luwo's laugh come last, a true foundation of skill is education,education needs funds and facilities which Jah-Luwo are denied now that's a great impact don't you agree.My sister can't achieve this goal of having skill without a proper education why? Because someone out there is undermining Jah-Luwo's education,if that is not true why were examination results recalled last year.Results recalled and down graded were mostly from Western Kenya, something smells fishy here no? Last year but one when Nyanza did poorly in exams Karua and her likes thumbed their chests while laughing because they had already planed and knew what was coming. Instead of addressing these issues affecting Kenya as one country they retorted to blaming Nyanza politicians, politicians are not teachers.It is the government responsbility to deploy qualified teachers, allocate education funds and build good facilities for a better education enviroment.

You seem to have forgotten that there was no opposition until Jah-Ramogi brought it to Kenya.Kiuk have never been in the opposition Kibaki was the vice president all these years you mentioned - remember those who shouted loudest and danced to Nyayo tune during "Baba" era. Those few who have tried to air their views a bout equal wealth distribution have been rejectected by main stream Kiuk voters.Koigi, Wangai and other few.

Buliding a fish procesing plant is not a one man responsbility we are talking about a big project, a government project unless you are talking of an old refrigeratore,or is that your business concept for Nyanza people.

MPS from Nyanza have raised these issues over the years, but everytime they raise these issues they are being granted rebels and percieved as enemies of the state. Look how all Jah- Luwo ministers were sacked after the refrendum because they aired their views about the constitution.

we should not let our vision be clouded by tribal chauvnism, but make Kenya (as a whole) a better place for all of us.
 

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The Kiuks can laugh now but Jah-luwo's laugh come last, a true foundation of skill is education,education needs funds and facilities which Jah-Luwo are denied now that's a great impact don't you agree.My sister can't achieve this goal of having skill without a proper education why? Because someone out there is undermining Jah-Luwo's education,if that is not true why were examination results recalled last year.Results recalled and down graded were mostly from Western Kenya, something smells fishy here no? Last year but one when Nyanza did poorly in exams Karua and her likes thumbed their chests while laughing because they had already planed and knew what was coming. Instead of addressing these issues affecting Kenya as one country they retorted to blaming Nyanza politicians, politicians are not teachers.It is the government responsbility to deploy qualified teachers, allocate education funds and build good facilities for a better education enviroment.

You seem to have forgotten that there was no opposition until Jah-Ramogi brought it to Kenya.Kiuk have never been in the opposition Kibaki was the vice president all these years you mentioned - remember those who shouted loudest and danced to Nyayo tune during "Baba" era. Those few who have tried to air their views a bout equal wealth distribution have been rejectected by main stream Kiuk voters.Koigi, Wangai and other few.

Buliding a fish procesing plant is not a one man responsbility we are talking about a big project, a government project unless you are talking of an old refrigeratore,or is that your business concept for Nyanza people.

MPS from Nyanza have raised these issues over the years, but everytime they raise these issues they are being granted rebels and percieved as enemies of the state. Look how all Jah- Luwo ministers were sacked after the refrendum because they aired their views about the constitution.

we should not let our vision be clouded by tribal chauvnism, but make Kenya (as a whole) a better place for all of us.
Something is fishy...
You mean these folks can stoop that low?
 
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