[ciceraw]

Originally Posted by TikTok

This argument is mute...

Or could it be that...this writer is deaf.

[ciceraw]

Business requires very little in fact negligible innate abilities. As such whatever a Kikuyu can do, any other non-kyuk can do it. But not through spewing hate and attributing the productivity of honest people to theft by the government. The minute you wake up from that MyTH and realize that with hard work, determination and some measure of humbleness, you too can do it, the need to hate the more successful ones would have been halved.

[Smartass]

Originally Posted by Ni_Diambo

jamboree, read the quote and the reply. I'm talking about the money-making instinct of the kyuks.

Until the day you understand the concept of capital, you will forever complain about kyuk's "money-making instinct"

My post was in reply to pastrolist and the point was:
Most pastrolists do not convert their wealth into capital and until they understand the concept of capital they will always complain about kyuks making all the money yet they are sitting on vast resources . Wealth is only useful if it works for you, it serves no purpose to display it in forms of large herds of cattle, it is tantamount to hiding millions under a mattress.

[Ni_Diambo]

Originally Posted by Smartass

Until the day you understand the concept of capital, you will forever complain about kyuk's "money-making instinct"

My post was in reply to pastrolist and the point was:
Most pastrolists do not convert their wealth into capital and until they understand the concept of capital they will always complain about kyuks making all the money yet they are sitting on vast resources . Wealth is only useful if it works for you, it serves no purpose to display it in forms of large herds of cattle, it is tantamount to hiding millions under a mattress.

That was meant to be a compliment, one of the positives that kyuks have above many of us. How do you read it as a complaint? I certainly understand capital, but as you can see, you are looking at the herd differently than the herd owner. Your approach is obviously the more sensible one.

I guess I'm re-explaining too much. I'll try to be much, much clearer next time.

[jamboree]

Originally Posted by Ni_Diambo

That was meant to be a compliment, one of the positives that kyuks have above many of us. How do you read it as a complaint? I certainly understand capital, but as you can see, you are looking at the herd differently than the herd owner. Your approach is obviously the more sensible one.

I guess I'm re-explaining too much. I'll try to be much, much clearer next time.

I think part of the misunderstanding stems from the fact that in the past you have at times come across as a Kikuyu critic. On many occasions, though, you have not failed to highlight their positive side. I must admit you are one of the few level headed posters on this forum.

[Ni_Diambo]

Originally Posted by jamboree

I think part of the misunderstanding stems from the fact that in the past you have at times come across as a Kikuyu critic. On many occasions, though, you have not failed to highlight their positive side. I must admit you are one of the few level headed posters on this forum.

Thanks jamboree for seeing my point. As I have said in the past, I am not a hater, but try to tackle issues objectively. This has made me lock horns with both PNU and ODM supporters. I have been called Mungiki and kihii (if there can be such a thing!) Obviously, the fire I receive comes from the side I’m tackling at that moment.

When it comes to kyuks, I have tried to be as candid as I can. Look at my unflattering list at the beginning of this thread. There are positives and negatives. A kyuk supporter or hater will choose the ones they like – and respond accordingly.

[Smartass]

Originally Posted by Ni_Diambo

That was meant to be a compliment, one of the positives that kyuks have above many of us. How do you read it as a complaint? I certainly understand capital, but as you can see, you are looking at the herd differently than the herd owner. Your approach is obviously the more sensible one.

I guess I'm re-explaining too much. I'll try to be much, much clearer next time.

Noted: I did check out your posts and you are fairly balanced.

[Ni_Diambo]

Originally Posted by Smartass

Noted: I did check out your posts and you are fairly balanced.

Thanks smartass. I guess praises alone are not beneficial to anyone. Neither is criticism. Unfortunately many Mashadites have a very low tolerance of criticism, especially criticism directed at their political heroes. This attitude has contributed to our leaders acquiring the status of demigods, unaccountable to the people.

[mak&emoto]

Originally Posted by jamboree

Now a lot has been said about Kikuyu's enterpreneurial abilities. However I believe that this is not a trait that others cannot learn. For that reason it is important to study why other communities have not been as successful in this venture as their Kikuyu brethren. Indeed a spot check in major towns in Kenya reveal that shops are not mostly run by locals but by Asians or Kikuyus. This is in sharp contrast to such areas as Thika, Murang'a, Nyeri, Karatina, Nanyuki and others where the locals (Kikuyus) compete with Asians for a slice of the economic pie to the chagrin of many who claim that Kikuyus exclude them.

My hypothesis is that some communities tend to look down upon the informal sector. Take the example of the hawking business- both legal and illegal. The only people you find haggling for space in the streets or markets to sell stuff are mostly Kikuyus. Other communities would rather aspire to become so called professionals and earn little than do certain jobs. Interestingly, Kikuyus are also to be found in the white collar jobs proving the Swahili adage that “kazi ni kazi” i.e. any work is good enough. Thats why when the economy was growing at 6% some people were asking where the jobs were and yet others had seized the opportunity to do small businesses here and there.


So even as we agree that Kikuyus will need to re-evaluate their non commital nature (almost shy predisposition) to other people's plight a lesson or two about hustling(as they call it in the west) can come in handy.

NB: If you cant respond maturely please dont. This post is not meant to showcase any stereotypes but to bring out some publicly held notions about our nationhood.

Tafadhali,
We don't need a country of thieves in the name of entrepreneurship. If other honest hardworking communities in Kenya were to copy the Kikuyu version of entrepreneurship the country would surely go to the dogs. enuff said!

[jamboree]

Originally Posted by mak&emoto

Tafadhali,
We don't need a country of thieves in the name of entrepreneurship. If other honest hardworking communities in Kenya were to copy the Kikuyu version of entrepreneurship the country would surely go to the dogs. enuff said!

Yeah right! and the sky is green!!