Sorry, you must be getting things wrong. Firstly, he has roots of which he is proud of. Two, he has spoken of Kibera many times after elections and even after being declared the PM (Hope you have been following the news - get your facts right! Three, Lang'ata is not the slum; it's a constituency, while Kibera, is the slum and lastly. If you meant Kibera, then it's not the largest slum in Africa.
Now, Raila has a right to go for home-coming at Bondo as that is his HOME. Perhaps, you do not have one and have adopted a second home somewhere through land acquired in one way or another. The Kisumu and Bondo people publicly invited him to visit them so that they could fete him. You want him to let them down. Please, if you do not like the man, do not question his actions based on skewed reasoning just to raise some wimpy waves! Love or hate him - that is of no consequence. Sorry for that.
why can't you simply agree that spending that much in the home coming party is not the best reward you can give to your supporters they are other better alternatives.
TRESSPASSERS WILL BE SHOT AND SURVIVORS WILL BE SHOT AGAIN
Its soo disheartening to see odm supporters come here to correct grammatical mistakes and blow them out of proportion and use them as defence against an idea (homecoming party) that is soo out of sync with the times we are living in. Fact, kibera is africas largest slum:ahi: united states » kibera: africa’s largest slum fact: raila did not create kibera fact: raila represents kibera. Its the same way kibaki would get flak for saying that its not his problem if kenyas roads are full of potholes because he doesnt make roads. Domo domo domo domo from raila is not what we want to hear. Rather we want to hear domo articulating policies, of what he intends to do to reverse the situation in kibera with his expertise as a trained engineer, a former minister for housing, and a former minister for roads, and now the prime minister. If he celebrates after laying the groundwork of policies we can understand. Right now, we know the only words worthy of being published in the newspaper are those of the president and the prime minister. It defeats logic for one to be doing a google search from january-may 2008 to find out what raila is doing for kibera, if anything, events of the past 5 months are very imprinted in kenyans minds, and the truth is raila has not articulated any policy position, concerning kibera or kisumu. We are not asking him not to party, we are telling him that he looks like that ancient queen in french who when faced with riots by citizens coz they lacked bread asked, cant they eat cookies? or somthing like that. Odm'ers please spare us the small nonsense of correcting spelling mistakes and making it look like we dont have our facts right. If raila made a big show of his home party, there is no way we would have missed him spelling out his leadership for kibera. The fact that we have to really scrounge and google for what he said is evidence enuff he hasnt done much. The fact that you come here to correct other peoples spelling mistakes, making them sound like such biiiig issues, in relation to his party just shows how broke of ideas you are.
Its soo disheartening to see odm supporters come here to correct grammatical mistakes and blow them out of proportion and use them as defence against an idea (homecoming party) that is soo out of sync with the times we are living in. Fact, kibera is africas largest slum:ahi: united states » kibera: africa’s largest slum fact: raila did not create kibera fact: raila represents kibera. Its the same way kibaki would get flak for saying that its not his problem if kenyas roads are full of potholes because he doesnt make roads. Domo domo domo domo from raila is not what we want to hear. Rather we want to hear domo articulating policies, of what he intends to do to reverse the situation in kibera with his expertise as a trained engineer, a former minister for housing, and a former minister for roads, and now the prime minister. If he celebrates after laying the groundwork of policies we can understand. Right now, we know the only words worthy of being published in the newspaper are those of the president and the prime minister. It defeats logic for one to be doing a google search from january-may 2008 to find out what raila is doing for kibera, if anything, events of the past 5 months are very imprinted in kenyans minds, and the truth is raila has not articulated any policy position, concerning kibera or kisumu. We are not asking him not to party, we are telling him that there is hardly any growth in the country, let alone in his two « dual homes » which he is very proud of, to merit celebration. His dual homes if he has any sense were very much affected and do not have economic support structures. That other citizes of the country can see right into this rather obvious phenomenon and how he misses to see it, is quite appaling. Hardly two days passed and idp’s were being re-settled. Odm'ers please spare us the small nonsense of correcting spelling mistakes and making it look like we dont have our facts right. If raila made a big show of his home party, there is no way we would have missed him spelling out his leadership for kibera. The fact that we have to scrounge and google for what he said is evidence enuff he hasnt done much. The fact that you come here to correct other peoples spelling mistakes, making them sound like such biiiig issues, in relation to his party just shows how broke of ideas you are.
Its soo disheartening to see odm supporters come here to correct grammatical mistakes and blow them out of proportion and use them as defence against an idea (homecoming party) that is soo out of sync
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issues, in relation to his party just shows how broke of ideas you are.
Hehehehe...... Kijana...please remind yourself of odm's motto: odm maisha bora, or was it chungwa moja maisha bora.....something along those lines... Stop cracking...its still too early to start excusing raila. The pressure to perform.....is yet to mount. You guys thought leadership is easy and were all badmouthing kibaki for his effort. Its raila who asked for those positions...in order to serve kenyans.. what we are asking him to do is serve kibera first,! we dont care whether its thru corrupt means or what..but let him dedicate all the money he would have used for homecoming to thank his supporters in a bigger way... Ie show them how to fish..rather than giving them fish.... funny how the saying is about fish, the staple food of raila..
Kindly recall Raila has more than one constituency 1) he's MP for Kibera 2) His bid for presidency had its core base in Luo Nyanza
With respect to the bid for Kibera MP, the core of his support was/is from Luo Nyanza or why do you think in the last campaign he spoke in Dhaluo while campaigning in Kibera.
Regarding his bid for presidency, his strongest support was in Luo Nyanza and so was "no Raila no peace" mayhem & destruction.
You can do all manners of political hair splitting, but, Raila's political base remains in Luo Nyanza & it makes sense to hold the homecoming there.
Yeah yeah, bankrupt my arse. The guy got his finances sorted out a long long time ago.
As long as you Keep on using gas in your home, drinking liquor and fueling your car so Raila will always have more money than you can ever fathom.
We may fight and fight about how much an individual is worth. Or how much gets into his/her account courtesy of his/her wealth- and in a way brings an issue of double standards if you revisit many threads about how much some politicians own! Guess it also takes us back to the debate on equality/social-equity, wealth redistribution, et al. Shouldn't we have a precedent setter in redistribution of wealth
So if for every litre of alcohol I consume, or for cubic centimetre of gas I consume - Raila gains, how much does this help the mwananchi in Kibera who has to walk to work, live under conditons below average human index? The same questions are as well relevant for those whose constiuents stay Mathare, and so many other slums.
I realise that patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone.
So if for every litre of alcohol I consume, or for cubic centimetre of gas I consume - Raila gains, how much does this help the mwananchi in Kibera who has to walk to work, live under conditons below average human index? The same questions are as well relevant for those whose constiuents stay Mathare, and so many other slums.
Kabunja...thank you for summarizing it for these ODM'ers see they are all trying to pick on silly non-issues that have very little bearing with what is on the ground.
Irony is this; When those same youth in Kibera stone motorists, burn churches and loot properties, you will hear these staunch ODM supporters saying that those are "kenyans on the ground expressing their dissatisfaction with the government"
However, when Raila whose constituency represents (the Kenyans on the ground who are dissatisfied) is drinking brew and celebrating, and he is now in the government, what happens to those Kenyans? Shouldnt they be even more dissatisfied that their representative to government has started off on the wrong footing, ie NOT ADDRESSING WHAT THEY DIED FOR?
Teach a man how to fish, dont give him a fish.
How ironical for this saying to use fish, Railas staple food to drive its point across.
The guy got his finances sorted out a long long time ago.
Yes Kenyan politics tends to sort out the pockets don't they
I'm sure he'll leave that PM position(for the prezo or otherwise) a little more financially sorted than before. The question is how 'sorted' his constituencies finances and economy will be. He has made quite a few promises to revolutionize things economically so when people see the same old same i.e. politicians spending lavishly and being overpaid immensly while the kenyans who killed, suffered and died for him to get a seat at the table languish in abject poverty....we become skepticle of such a 'revolution'
Will the ones who fought for his win be invited to his parties?
Will they benefit from it?
take care of your central murderous mungiki gangs or shut up:) propaganda won't help! -
05-09-2008, 11:43 AM
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In which constituency does Raila surely represent in parliament, is it Bondo or Langata constituency? Because it’s disheartening to the populace of Langata constituency, in particular, the biggest slum in Africa which is almost to become a museum of all international visitors in this country not to benefit in tomorrows Raila’s Party. What are his plans for the big slums? Since when he was campaigning and also after his appointment as prime minister in this country, I have never heard him talking of Langata constituency and what could be done to uplift Kibera from its eminence.
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05-09-2008, 08:44 AM
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