[Luoliability]

I will not call him President.
I will not serve in his government.
I will call for mass action.
All the interviews with al jazeera, bbc, voa, cnn, npr.
All your dogs of war have lost their teeth (Anyang' etc).

[Miscellaneous]

Originally Posted by Luoliability

I will not call him President.
I will not serve in his government.
I will call for mass action.
All the interviews with al jazeera, bbc, voa, cnn, npr.
All your dogs of war have lost their teeth (Anyang' etc).

"On coming to power, [Kenyatta] proceeded, through the land ownership policies(and practices) of his government (and himself), to betray everything that the Mau Mau had stood for and to entrench the landholding patterns established under the colony"[1]

It is not a surprise that Kenyatta by the early 1970’s had a few detentions and assassinations under his belt. In the words of politician J.M. Kariuki (assassinated in 1975), Kenyatta created a nation of ten millionaires and ten million beggars. He wanted the Mau Mau platform of Land and Freedom erased from Kenyan memory.

In 1978 President Moi took over when Kenyatta died and continued with the same dictatorial policies. Irony is such that in 1982, Mau Mau historian Maina Wa Kinyatti was imprisoned by the Moi government in the same Kamiti Prison where the British in 1957 hanged and buried the leader of the Mau Mau, Dedan Kimathi, in an unmarked grave.

It was not until the Kibaki government took over in 2002 that the colonial ban on the Mau Mau was removed. Finally in 2007 a statue of Kimathi stands on Kimathi Street, something unimaginable under the Kenyatta and Moi regimes.

But more important than a hero's acre or a monument is a reckoning with the colonial legacy of torture, dehumanization and pauperization. Mau Mau veterans that are still alive, along with their children and grandchildren, live in abject poverty, landless and without formal education.

[francefrench]

Originally Posted by Luoliability

I will not call him President.
I will not serve in his government.
I will call for mass action.
All the interviews with al jazeera, bbc, voa, cnn, npr.
All your dogs of war have lost their teeth (Anyang' etc).

Raila has not changed in his principles.
He never called Kibaki president, until an act was made to recommend that he be called Prime Minister by Kibaki
He is not serving in Kibaki's government - He is serving in his government.
the formula of mass action effectively worked forcing PNU diehards to soften their stands
Pro.Anyang Nyongo is not a dog of war. He is amongst the best scholars Africa has produced. THe much touted PNU's vision 2030 is the vision of Prof.Anyang nyongo.

I do not think there is anything wrong to have interviews especially when you have something to say.
Kibaki has this phobia for TVs and interviews since, as you realize, he has a strange way of expressing himself.

[omin]

Originally Posted by Luoliability

I will not call him President.
I will not serve in his government.
I will call for mass action.
All the interviews with al jazeera, bbc, voa, cnn, npr.
All your dogs of war have lost their teeth (Anyang' etc).

Don't you remember the senseless killings? Peace has a price. If that is the price so be it!

[Wamax74.]

Originally Posted by francefrench

Raila has not changed in his principles.
He never called Kibaki president, until an act was made to recommend that he be called Prime Minister by Kibaki
He is not serving in Kibaki's government - He is serving in his government.
the formula of mass action effectively worked forcing PNU diehards to soften their stands
Pro.Anyang Nyongo is not a dog of war. He is amongst the best scholars Africa has produced. THe much touted PNU's vision 2030 is the vision of Prof.Anyang nyongo.

I do not think there is anything wrong to have interviews especially when you have something to say.
Kibaki has this phobia for TVs and interviews since, as you realize, he has a strange way of expressing himself.

Whats it to you? You killed your neighbours for this Raila.

Now Raila and Kibaki are sharing the same table as they plan how to eat your taxes.

Who is the idiot now?

[francefrench]

Originally Posted by Wamax74.

Whats it to you? You killed your neighbours for this Raila.

Now Raila and Kibaki are sharing the same table as they plan how to eat your taxes.

Who is the idiot now?

I don't think your approach to contribution in a thread is constructive.
I could only say that the combination we have at present i.e Raila and Kibaki is the best that any Kenyan wishing Kenya well would go for.

Try to imagine an alliance between Ruto and Karua. How would you compare it with the former?

And I believe avoiding words such as "idiot" etc makes a contribution worthy of reading.
Sometimes someone could make a mistake of thinking that we are describing ourselves when we use these words as "idiot, etc" with surprising ease!!!

[Wamax74.]

Originally Posted by francefrench

I don't think your approach to contribution in a thread is constructive.
I could only say that the combination we have at present i.e Raila and Kibaki is the best that any Kenyan wishing Kenya well would go for.

Try to imagine an alliance between Ruto and Karua. How would you compare it with the former?

And I believe avoiding words such as "idiot" etc makes a contribution worthy of reading.
Sometimes someone could make a mistake of thinking that we are describing ourselves when we use these words as "idiot, etc" with surprising ease!!!

wow! I didnt know I was conversing with a reasonable person.

Am usually used to being abused back.

Thanks.

[Miscellaneous]

Originally Posted by wamax74.

wow! i didnt know i was conversing with a reasonable person. Am usually used to being abused back. Thanks.

such a pretender!!who are you fooling? your threads all over are full of abuse- and this time someone told you your to stick your uncouth nose

[Wamax74.]

Originally Posted by Miscellaneous

such a pretender!!who are you fooling? your threads all over are full of abuse- and this time someone told you your to stick your uncouth nose

You miscellaneous, are a spammer and the idiot I referred to above.

[Miscellaneous]

Originally Posted by wamax74.

you miscellaneous, are a spammer and the idiot i referred to above.

people like wamax74 who can't stand the truth and heat have no business posting your childish threads here- grow up