[bloggeratti]

Originally Posted by tako la fisi

Personally i think ODM will have an easy ride; any PNU success ODM will take credit and ODM screw ups will be blamed on PNU.ODM supporters are easily manipulated and lack the capacity to think for themselves.Ojinga men found a working formula with his supporters; hate on Kikuyus and everything else is gravy.

How true. An ODM supporter is a politicians nirvana. Total bliss!

[bryo99]

Blogeratti,
The "successes" of the Kibaki govt. can be attributed to the failed govt. policies of his predecessor where they barely did enough to get by. It is therefore foolhardy to give him all the credit his government for the renewed vigor and resiliency of the Kenyan working class and more so the young entrepreneurs. I must commend him for the improved tax collection and for improved services in certain govt. departments, not all.
As we embark on this new journey, namely the grand coalition, it is easy for us to treat individual cabinet members with the contempt that they "deserve" based on our party or tribal affiliation but I believe everyone has a skeleton in their closet. We can all unearth various scandals and tie to each one of them but it would not do no good at this time. Unfortunately, this is all we have at this time.
I am not absolving anyone but I believe we need to give each one of them the benefit of the doubt and let them be judged according to their work and to a larger extent, the success of their respective ministries in delivering services to the people.
In the meanwhile, I shall retreat from the bordello and hold my precious load still until I see otherwise.

[Miscellaneous]

Originally Posted by dvdrw

that does not mean that he did not fund the killings, rapes, evictions in rv. He is still a wanted man and his time is running out.

pnu piece of mouth still here trying the stale propaganda of yesterday- it will never work- you can scream his name all day and night long- but here are your killers nakuru, naivasha, - kibaki order shut to kill and he and his cronies paid the mungiki to commit genocide!!(now the mungiki want to be paid) so who are the murderers here?? the mungiki's and the people that paid them to commit genocide in nakuru and naivasha!! who gave the command to the police to shoot and kill innocent kenyans more than 500 dead by bullets?? kibaki- he will be charged even when he is 90 years old!"Hague" or else the mungiki will do it!! Hitlers murder gangs ran and hide but they were found- some are in their 90's but they were still jailed- kenyans will not forget what kibaki and the mungiki did!! mark my words!! keep singing on here with false propaganda with no proof!! but kenyans have proof!!

[manvikta]

Originally Posted by Miscellaneous

weeep!!shed tearRuto did it!! and yes the fertaliser was being sold to rift valley by your mungiki brothers at 4000 shillings a bag not anymore!! maybe the central lesotho people will by at that price!!The Minister of Agriculture has said no farmers will buy at that price again!!!damn right and it was about time to blow a whole in the corrupt fertalizer crocks ring na mambo bado!!

LOL. Ruto just paid farmers what they were owed. If he can find the corrupt fat cats, it would be good...but you are rejoicing too early.
Last time I read, the government was trying to acquire their own fertilizer to distribute at lower prices. Such a system is good but removes "laissez faire"...which is important for a vibrant economy.
By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if the government contracts a 'mungiki' middle man to distribute their fertilizer.
Misc. , I pity you.

[bloggeratti]

Originally Posted by bryo99

Blogeratti,
The "successes" of the Kibaki govt. can be attributed to the failed govt. policies of his predecessor where they barely did enough to get by. It is therefore foolhardy to give him all the credit his government for the renewed vigor and resiliency of the Kenyan working class and more so the young entrepreneurs. I must commend him for the improved tax collection and for improved services in certain govt. departments, not all.
As we embark on this new journey, namely the grand coalition, it is easy for us to treat individual cabinet members with the contempt that they "deserve" based on our party or tribal affiliation but I believe everyone has a skeleton in their closet. We can all unearth various scandals and tie to each one of them but it would not do no good at this time. Unfortunately, this is all we have at this time.
I am not absolving anyone but I believe we need to give each one of them the benefit of the doubt and let them be judged according to their work and to a larger extent, the success of their respective ministries in delivering services to the people.
In the meanwhile, I shall retreat from the bordello and hold my precious load still until I see otherwise.

I beg to differ, Sir Bryo.

Due to my line of work, I was privy to several collabo's between Govt and foreign aid agencies at the planning stages. The job entailed crisscrossing Kenya, especially in the more marginalised areas of North Eastern, Coasta Rica and Kaloosers backyard.

Simply put, Kenya's got serious potential. However its main stumbling blocks are politics and ignorance.

• Imagine the joy when some Ukambani farmer increased his income by 70% just by undergoing a paradigm shift.
• Imagine the elation when the 700 polytechnics countrywide will be revived to bring industrialization down to the village level, India-style.
• Imagine the lives saved through proper nutrition in our public health centres. In Uncle Dan's era, there were only 17 qualified nutritionists countrywide. The number has surged to 217 nutritionists and they've gone a step ahead to form their own society [www.kcann.or.ke].

Sure Emilio's government isn't squeeky clean. But if you delve deep in its bowels, you'll notice good things were happening.
Kibaki's biggest problem is pathetic PR [Dr. Alfie is a crappy publicist!], elitism and cronism. Kenya, under Kibaki, has no room for the poor, unemployed and uneducated.

My humble view is that Kibaki would have been the perfect transitional president. Set the sytem in order, nyonga Kenyans properly [Pinochet-style], then leave his successors to either make a mess of things or add on to his achievements.

ODM had the perfect colour (bright orange), damn good PR, a youthful aura and benovelence for the downtrodden. But (again my humble view), their advantages ended there.
Example 1: How can a developing country pay its unemployed citizens a salary and yet create 1 million jobs? How can you encourage people to work if you pay them for not working all the same? In their bid to get into power, I think ODM went overboard on its promises.

In my profession, creativity goes hand in hand with precision. As much as I'm expected to come up with ideas out of the ordinary, I'm constantly reminded of the boundaries of what's possible and what's not.

On that ideological note, ODM and I parted ways.

For now, as you've advised, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I mean we have Lucifer and Legion both in government - the best we can do is pray hard and hope for the best, innit?

On a lighter note, as for your "precious load", I'd advise you to give the bordello a miss and delve into the world of monogamy and home-cooked meals. It sure rocks!

[Miscellaneous]

Originally Posted by manvikta

LOL. Ruto just paid farmers what they were owed. If he can find the corrupt fat cats, it would be good...but you are rejoicing too early.
Last time I read, the government was trying to acquire their own fertilizer to distribute at lower prices. Such a system is good but removes "laissez faire"...which is important for a vibrant economy.
By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if the government contracts a 'mungiki' middle man to distribute their fertilizer.
Misc. , I pity you.

ha!!ha!! are you asleep?? didn't the mungiki try to demonstrate in Eldoret??? and did you see what happened to them?? they had to be saved by police - i understand in fact they were given Police escort!! who has ever heard of criminal murderers being given police escort?? Kibaki mungiki chieftain is crazy in the end they will come for him!! I would like to watch the mungiki ati selling fertilizer in the Rift Valley in fact i dare them to try Wacha wajaribu!!
I advise them to stay in central Lesotho and continue terrorizing the women of central province how they are going to circumcises them!!hey they will never finish in a year- and i advise them to charge them triple for the job!!! where were the Central Lesotho women to be circumcised earlier age eh??????

[Miscellaneous]

Originally Posted by bloggeratti

I beg to differ, Sir Bryo.

Due to my line of work, I was privy to several collabo's between Govt and foreign aid agencies at the planning stages. The job entailed crisscrossing Kenya, especially in the more marginalised areas of North Eastern, Coasta Rica and Kaloosers backyard.

Simply put, Kenya's got serious potential. However its main stumbling blocks are politics and ignorance.

• Imagine the joy when some Ukambani farmer increased his income by 70% just by undergoing a paradigm shift.
• Imagine the elation when the 700 polytechnics countrywide will be revived to bring industrialization down to the village level, India-style.
• Imagine the lives saved through proper nutrition in our public health centres. In Uncle Dan's era, there were only 17 qualified nutritionists countrywide. The number has surged to 217 nutritionists and they've gone a step ahead to form their own society [www.kcann.or.ke].

Sure Emilio's government isn't squeeky clean. But if you delve deep in its bowels, you'll notice good things were happening.
Kibaki's biggest problem is pathetic PR [Dr. Alfie is a crappy publicist!], elitism and cronism. Kenya, under Kibaki, has no room for the poor, unemployed and uneducated.

My humble view is that Kibaki would have been the perfect transitional president. Set the sytem in order, nyonga Kenyans properly [Pinochet-style], then leave his successors to either make a mess of things or add on to his achievements.

ODM had the perfect colour (bright orange), damn good PR, a youthful aura and benovelence for the downtrodden. But (again my humble view), their advantages ended there.
Example 1: How can a developing country pay its unemployed citizens a salary and yet create 1 million jobs? How can you encourage people to work if you pay them for not working all the same? In their bid to get into power, I think ODM went overboard on its promises.

In my profession, creativity goes hand in hand with precision. As much as I'm expected to come up with ideas out of the ordinary, I'm constantly reminded of the boundaries of what's possible and what's not.

On that ideological note, ODM and I parted ways.

For now, as you've advised, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I mean we have Lucifer and Legion both in government - the best we can do is pray hard and hope for the best, innit?

On a lighter note, as for your "precious load", I'd advise you to give the bordello a miss and delve into the world of monogamy and home-cooked meals. It sure rocks!

I beg to differ most of kibaki's tenure 2002-2007 the government bodies which control kenyans economy were misused and crocks had a field day!! look at such brokerage firms like nyaga and some others that the government was trying to bail out yet they misused their clients funds?? how about all the government contracts scandals- Anglo leasing is the tip of the iceberg -give it a few months with what i hear has been discovered- kenyans will be in shock - what economy when the rich were getting richer and most kenyans were surviving on less than $5-10 - isn't it why the youth took upon themselves to form gangs to extort money from Wanaichi's?? Kibaki followed the legacy of the 2 previous presidents- loot and loot as much as you can with your cronies and put the government machinary in place to cover-up everything!! not anymore !!even Mobuto of Zaire died with all his billions foreign accounts!! they can run but where are they going to hide their loot....... trail of the money this time will be found?? foreign governments ain't playing ball anymore!! mambo bado!

Kibaki's time has seen kenyans become beggars even the educated mass had no jobs except people from central province!one has to look no further than the civil service and most of the government bodies and hey check on the school results saga?? what even controlling marks from other provinces in order to put through most of the kids from central province through to University? even those that didn't attend school?? reminds me of America and the black population lock out from good education and universities!!(I guess that is where the idea come from) it doesn't surprise me after reading threads on the blogs on what has been brain washed to most kikuyu kids ati they are superior to other tribes!!!! ha!!ha!! I guess that come tumbling down!!!this year !!

One only has to see how Kenyans voted all round and PNU was no where!!!
that is how angry and hungry kenyans were!!and still are!! then ofcourse the shoot to kill order kicked in from the Illegal Commander in Chief Kibaki!! kill kill kill he ordered the police!! that is how he will be remembered in kenya by Kenyans from the 6 provinces that voted him out of office!! well i guess the mungiki were protecting him!!

[manvikta]

Originally Posted by Miscellaneous

ha!!ha!! are you asleep?? didn't the mungiki try to demonstrate in Eldoret??? and did you see what happened to them?? they had to be saved by police - i understand in fact they were given Police escort!! who has ever heard of criminal murderers being given police escort?? Kibaki mungiki chieftain is crazy in the end they will come for him!! I would like to watch the mungiki ati selling fertilizer in the Rift Valley in fact i dare them to try Wacha wajaribu!!
I advise them to stay in central Lesotho and continue terrorizing the women of central province how they are going to circumcises them!!hey they will never finish in a year- and i advise them to charge them triple for the job!!! where were the Central Lesotho women to be circumcised earlier age eh??????

I give up, wewe ni mtu was ABC na 1,2,3. Kwani do people need to come there physically to sell their stuff? How many Chinese have you seen hawking radios in Nairobi...and how many of your goods are MADE IN CHINA?
And I was saying 'Mungiki' to make fun of the fact that you label any Kikuyu a Mungiki.
Ati we will 'come for him'.... Wonder why pple think the internet is a safe cover.
Oops, am wasting 'cash' on you. Laters!

[Miscellaneous]

Originally Posted by bloggeratti

Wow!

I like the way life is so A+B = C, or simple black and white - in the eyes of a simpleton.

If Ruto were such an angel, the economic misery we suffered due to his (and Jirongo's) shenanigans in YK '92 wouldn't have happened.

If he were such a model citizen as you would love us to believe, there would be no IDP's. Yeah, yeah - and before you jump off your ethnic high horse, we all know he is the source, centre and epicentre of ethnic cleansing in RV.

If he's such a patriot/statesman as you mistakenly believe, he wouldn't be salivating after the lucrative Military insurance contracts, innit?

He means business, alright. But trust me, you aint the centre of his business.

when central province are looting kenyanss through Anglo leasing, transcentury, nyaga brokers and now the grand regency deals - they say they are educated in finance meaning kenyans understand it as being educated in being thieves!! so now you point fingures at
Ruto na wevu!! ha!!ha!! go tell your thieving brothers to put back what they stole wacha propaganda!!

[Miscellaneous]

Originally Posted by manvikta

I give up, wewe ni mtu was ABC na 1,2,3. Kwani do people need to come there physically to sell their stuff? How many Chinese have you seen hawking radios in Nairobi...and how many of your goods are MADE IN CHINA?
And I was saying 'Mungiki' to make fun of the fact that you label any Kikuyu a Mungiki.
Ati we will 'come for him'.... Wonder why pple think the internet is a safe cover.
Oops, am wasting 'cash' on you. Laters!

listen when you have something worth reading to post here do so- and being a mungiki member is a choice of central Lesotho province!!nobody forced you or all those MP`s to take oath!! so stop wasting your breath trying to say otherwise when it is all already in the public domain!!! my advise to you is to go tell your mungiki brothers to stop circumcising your sisters and mothers in Muranga and Nyandarua - i here such reports are starting trickling in!!!!