[EAY]

Dear kenyans, this is pippyza, the one that was banned from posting. I could have easily switched to a different handle but my conscience never allows me to use dubious ways of getting attentions. When i will do so, however, i will make sure that i make it known to kenyans in that forum that this is formerly pippyza. That´s how best and honest, i like handling my affairs. Meanwhile, i have no intentions of posting in mashada. Before getting to my second agenda, i would like to pass condolences to those kenyans participants in mashada discussions whose families were affected in one way or the other during the two month political crisis in kenya. I also join your prayers that an everlasting peace as well as justice prevails upon the people and the land. Up to the time of the kenya crisis, am convinced, that dr. Kofi annan is a gift that god gave to the continent of africa. What do i mean by this? apart from the normal channels of diplomacy, dr. Annan in my opinion, became even more of a kenya patriot than some of the members who were appointed to negotiate the deal. That´s why i say, he is a gift to africa. Coalition politics: maybe the best term for this would be transitional coalition politics. Ladies and gentle men, i hope you´ll agree with me, if i say that what is happening today in 2008 after the killings of 1500 innocent kenyans, could have happened in 2003 without blood shed. Kibaki, has done more harm than good in his tenure. Is it not kiraitu murungi, who now says he is ready to work with raila as the pm who resisted at all costs the creation of the post of an executive pm?? is it not martha karua, who did everything to water down the efforts from 2003 to 2007 and still yet, after rigging the 2007 ballot, insisted that kibaki remains with overwhelming powers solo, and her stand remained the same after 1,500 kenyans were butchered, now agreeing to working with an excecutive pm? if i may ask you all, what kind of future can murungi and karua (just those two examples) bring to our beloveth nation? should we protect the loot or build the nation?? martha karua, kiraitu murungi and many more politicians especially from the mt. Kenya region are nyangaus doing everything to cling onto power and protect their loot ( let´s not be deceived that they are playing tribal politics, no. They are using tribal politics ). Save for the lives that we have lost, i am happy because this post election violence will serve as a good example to other crooked african leaders who have perfected the art of ruling with the gun and in particular, if any kenyan leader will ever try to rig again, well, that would be insanity. Coalition government between raila and kibaki will stand as long as it will be valid. I say this because this is a transitional government they forming. This coalition, in my opinion, and i believe this is how it is, should not last for five years. It should only serve as an interim government to oversee the overhaul and a review of the present constitution. Thereafter, kenyans will go for a new presidential elections to rectify the irregularities made in the dec, 27th elections. We cannot afford to let it go. The internally displaced persons ( idps) should be resettled somewhere else apart from the rift valley. The operations that were realised by the warriors left no doubt that their presence in that region lacks approval from the locals. Otherwise, there would have been no conflict. Last but not the least, all kenyans, we have a reason to rejoice. Why? the era of impunity is remaining behind us; the era of tribalism is also behind us; the police brutality that was recently at it´s peak is also behind us. As i encourage you to support this coalition ( pacific reasons), i want to assure you, the poor and the lowly, the less fortunate, i mean the victims of inequity, that our beloved country is in your hands(kenya is back to it´s bonafide owners). Army commanders is not what we need to put food on our tables. What we need to fulfil our day to day needs is good and accountable governance. My fellow kenyans, hon. Raila amolo odinga ( the pm designate) , who suffered jail terms fighting for democracy, good governance and accountabilty is poised to be the head of kenya´s government. We have to dry our tears and rejoice as we work as a team. Thank you all, and god bless you n/b: i apologise for typing errors that may have been encountered. I am rushing somewhere

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Piipyza thank you nice to hear from you!

[Kolibri]

PippyZa! There you are, missed you man.

That mess in Kenya was/is truly daunting. I've just been argueing with that NUTHEAD twat - MogiYusuf! Man o Man.. you wouldn't believe these kikuyu's.. Some like her have still not learnt a thing! Still talking Junk just like her mama Martha Karau and her Papa Alfred M. Makes me wanna break some bones sometimes, just like the fellas in Kenya..

but then I remembered we are Rastamen and we need Peace, love and most of ALL RESPECT.

This is for you man, we missya bro!





Kolibri

[ABK kijana]

Welcome back Pip,

I admire your hopeful sentiments but all is not well in the mother land. How is the era of impunity over when thousands have been murdered and displaced with no justice? If we still do not know who rigged and how?

How can we have a 'new era' if the same villians who funnded mwanach proxy wars are now joined in a so-called unity gova?

And as far as not returning IDPs to Rift Valley. That is a crock of iiiishh!!
In what modern peosperous nation do citizens of certain ethnic groups need permission from self declared 'natives' to buy land and live freely?? The rule of law mandates redress within the bounds of the law at the behest of the VICTIMS not the PERPERTRATORS no matter their so-called 'tribe'.
Other than that comment we're on the same page.

[EAY]

pippyza usijali we will find you

[arapMursi]

other than five warnings I'm still around. the only people who kicked me out..are kikuyu.com

[missed call]

i thought u'd b back with a more sensible thing. most parts of ur thread are full of nonsensical truth.

Originally Posted by EAY

Ladies and gentle men, i hope you´ll agree with me, if i say that what is happening today in 2008 after the killings of 1500 innocent kenyans, could have happened in 2003 without blood shed. Kibaki, has done more harm than good in his tenure.

doesnt this prove ur barbarism? ask fools.

Is it not kiraitu murungi, who now says he is ready to work with raila as the pm who resisted at all costs the creation of the post of an executive pm?? is it not martha karua, who did everything to water down the efforts from 2003 to 2007 and still yet,

isnt it raila who said kibaki toka? isnt it him who called him illegal prezzo? isnt it him who said the current cabinet is illegal but now says "the govt had to function during crisis"?

after rigging the 2007 ballot,

why have u trusted the confident-looking odmers who only face cameras straight to tell lies? whicih constituencies had 105% turn up? there will b an independent commission to check on that. why dont u wait for the results. and what will u do if u realize kibaki actually won? i know both kibaki and raila rigged, only that kibaki beat raila on that. period!

insisted that kibaki remains with overwhelming powers solo, and her stand remained the same after 1,500 kenyans were butchered,

for the first time, an odmer has indicated the real thing. the odm supporters murdered people, in the name of PM. we need ruto's head urgently!

now agreeing to working with an excecutive pm? if i may ask you all, what kind of future can murungi and karua (just those two examples) bring to our beloveth nation?

and what will ruto bring? killing Mugabe Were and paying kale thugs to torch kyuks? he wont escape anyway.

should we protect the loot or build the nation?? martha karua, kiraitu murungi and many more politicians especially from the mt. Kenya region are nyangaus doing everything to cling onto power and protect their loot

i thought ruto has the greatest number of land cases. how soon can we forget molasses?

. The internally displaced persons ( idps) should be resettled somewhere else apart from the rift valley.

why display ur stupidity in the open public? or is it because ruto is still a threat? [/quote]

[zanzie]

Originally Posted by missed call

i thought u'd b back with a more sensible thing. Most parts of ur thread are full of nonsensical truth. Doesnt this prove ur barbarism? ask fools. Isnt it raila who said kibaki toka? isnt it him who called him illegal prezzo? isnt it him who said the current cabinet is illegal but now says "the govt had to function during crisis"? why have u trusted the confident-looking odmers who only face cameras straight to tell lies? whicih constituencies had 105% turn up? there will b an independent commission to check on that. Why dont u wait for the results. And what will u do if u realize kibaki actually won? i know both kibaki and raila rigged, only that kibaki beat raila on that. Period!for the first time, an odmer has indicated the real thing. The odm supporters murdered people, in the name of pm. We need ruto's head urgently!and what will ruto bring? killing mugabe were and paying kale thugs to torch kyuks? he wont escape anyway.i thought ruto has the greatest number of land cases. How soon can we forget molasses?why display ur stupidity in the open public? or is it because ruto is still a threat?

[/quote] i think you are the person with evil and hate- so take yourself and go where hate is preached in muranga-(not all kikuyu's are as hateful and evil sounding like you- you indeed bring shame to the kikuyu tribe!!!!! nobody is forcing you to join in with other kenyans to celebrate the power-sharing agreement so stop spewing your hate on mashada!!! if you want to go one on one on who are the thieves thugs and murderer's of innocent kenyan's then post proof of ruto giving shoot to kill orders to the police on here and i will post the same here on who from pnu gave the(police the shoot to kill) order and who stole from kenyan -looting involvement in scandals like anglo leasing and helping to protecting moi's billions- now if you have any prove on the molasses then show us!!! or else do shut up with your propaganda from madam martha karua we all know she is your spin doctor -her direct orders to you are lie lie lie!!!!until you believe in your own lies- everything you spew here is exactly like what she has trying to use as propaganda to the world but guess what!!!nobody listened!!

[missed call]

i think you are the person with evil and hate- so take yourself and go where hate is preached in muranga-(not all kikuyu's are as hateful and evil sounding like you- you indeed bring shame to the kikuyu tribe!!!!! nobody is forcing you to join in with other kenyans to celebrate the power-sharing agreement so stop spewing your hate on mashada!!! if you want to go one on one on who are the thieves thugs and murderer's of innocent kenyan's then post proof of ruto giving shoot to kill orders to the police on here and i will post the same here on who from pnu gave the(police the shoot to kill) order and who stole from kenyan -looting involvement in scandals like anglo leasing and helping to protecting moi's billions- now if you have any prove on the molasses then show us!!! or else do shut up with your propaganda from madam martha karua we all know she is your spin doctor -her direct orders to you are lie lie lie!!!!until you believe in your own lies- everything you spew here is exactly like what she has trying to use as propaganda to the world but guess what!!!nobody listened!! [/quote]

again and again i have said that i am not a kyuk! or how many tribes do we have in kenya?
am celebrating the power deal. and i've not bn for the prezzo excessive and unchecked powers.
whether u defend ruto or not, the blood of the innocent will continue knocking his door. and when time is ripe, he will pay for it. only fools will go looking for molasses proofs. ruto was in yk92. we need all the wealth he and moi's enjoyed.
and what will u do when martha karua is made the deputy pm ... all in the name of "wewe tu ndio dawa ya raila"?

[zanzie]

Originally Posted by missed call

i think you are the person with evil and hate- so take yourself and go where hate is preached in muranga-(not all kikuyu's are as hateful and evil sounding like you- you indeed bring shame to the kikuyu tribe!!!!! nobody is forcing you to join in with other kenyans to celebrate the power-sharing agreement so stop spewing your hate on mashada!!! if you want to go one on one on who are the thieves thugs and murderer's of innocent kenyan's then post proof of ruto giving shoot to kill orders to the police on here and i will post the same here on who from pnu gave the(police the shoot to kill) order and who stole from kenyan -looting involvement in scandals like anglo leasing and helping to protecting moi's billions- now if you have any prove on the molasses then show us!!! or else do shut up with your propaganda from madam martha karua we all know she is your spin doctor -her direct orders to you are lie lie lie!!!!until you believe in your own lies- everything you spew here is exactly like what she has trying to use as propaganda to the world but guess what!!!nobody listened!!

again and again i have said that i am not a kyuk! or how many tribes do we have in kenya? am celebrating the power deal. And i've not bn for the prezzo excessive and unchecked powers. Whether u defend ruto or not, the blood of the innocent will continue knocking his door. And when time is ripe, he will pay for it. Only fools will go looking for molasses proofs. Ruto was in yk92. We need all the wealth he and moi's enjoyed. And what will u do when martha karua is made the deputy pm ... All in the name of "wewe tu ndio dawa ya raila"?[/quote]

nice to note that you support martha karua, michuki, uhuru, karume, saitoti, and the rest of the gang the mugkiki gang mentioned that they met at statehouse- this people bankrolled the mungiki's to go commit genocide in nakuru and naivasha and you dare talk about ruto on here!! mungiki's taped the meeting- let as see how supportive ot this murderer's you will be when you here them giving the mungiki's orders to go kill all kihii's!!(luo) and even circumcise them!! let us not pretend on here that we ain't kikuyu's -


i'm not surprise you are even disowning your own tribe!!go back and read your threads- you sure write your arguments here like most kikuyu's!! keep on supporting murderer's!! Hague is waiting maina kiai already send prove and more has been released!! please start asking all your rich kikuyu thieves to share their wealth with displaced kikuyu's - notice known of them offered their farms to settle their tribesmen!!! kikuyu's have stolen more many than any other tribe in Kenya-since Kenyatta's time!!- moi learned from the best masters(from a school teacher to a billionaire!!!! why do you think kibaki agreed on power-sharing???