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Old 1st July 2009, 10:58 PM
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I encourage you to start a 'Vatican encyclopedia thread' because I feel your opinions have everything to do with faith not reason/logic or fact and that to a large extent such views (which are not yours anyway) only help to deepen our schism.
Atabong, this isn't true, I've always presented you with historical facts rebutting your attacks on Christian history, which you've always dismissed as irrelevant to the thread. So what you've been dismissing, I'd like discussed in this thread.

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I do not believe in the concept of a white God and original sin and I have in numerous instances presented my views as to why I don’t.
Atabong, I don't believe in a white God. Please lay that issue to rest.

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I grew up in a sub-Saharan African countryside where our people did not lock anything up yet nothing was ever stolen, there was never even a hint of rape, homosexuality, bestiality and all these other horrible practices brought in by European and Arab imperialists

I do believe every human being is born good, innocent, pure, perfect and free.

Please support the concept of original sin within the scope of reason.
Atabong, in my original post, I asked you to present the historical problems you have with Christianity. What you've presented above is a existential and soteriological problem which isn't my original intent for this thread. We can take that discussion to another thread if you'd like.

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I’m sure you’d vouch for me, that I write a lot (much more than you do) and I also provide links to research material and videos that I think best explains what I am talking about. If you have any worries about the authenticity of these videos or feel personally offended, you can ask me to remove them.
Nope, I don't feel personally offended. I just want to hear an argument against Christianity in your own words, not in someone else's words. I wouldn't mind seeing support from quotations made by credible people to support your side (this is very much encouraged), but I wouldn't want this discussion to be a back and forth exchange of youtube videos and links to external articles.
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To say, ‘people smatter than us’ sounds to me to be very broad, can you expatiate?
Like I said, I wanted to hear an argument in your own words, an argument that you can defend credibly.

As an example, (a statement which you've posted numerous times) "Scholars and Theologians say that Jesus never existed." I would like to hear why you support this statement, and how well you can defend it against a rebuttal that is posted.

Please note that I'd like the discussion to deal only with the historical authenticity of Christianity. Thanks.
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