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Default 05-09-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by reggie_woic View Post
maybe you can try answering this Chotadipo:
does a perfect being cease to function?
Reggie,

by definition, it should, since any change would render it imperfect. e.g. if the perfect being breathed out, suddenly it has less air than it had in it's lungs a few seconds ago. Perfection cannot be a variable state, so you cannot be perfect with both an empty set of lungs and a full set of lungs. It has to be one or the other. Which means that even by doing something as small as breathing out, the being is no longer perfect!

That's why, by definition, it is impossible for god to have created man because that would have involved a major change of his perfect state.

I think the major problem for god is that when man created him (god), man gave god a long list of attributes that have now been proven to be mutually incompatible. You can't be all knowing and yet claim man has free will. You can't be all powerful and yet evil still exists. You can't be perfect and then you create imperfect things. etc. This is what leads to things being how ChotaDipo put it - This is where GOD screws up his "all knowing" attribute. He is perfect, but according to grip_daddy chooses to create an imperfection, which is man, then forces the imperfection to bide by his perfect nature, and if the imperfection fails, of which will be the case anyway, and he already knows that because he is perfect, he goes ahead and punishes the imperfection or chooses to have 'mercy' on him provided the imperfection after that sings his praises infinitely. Your analogy of the genius falls flat here.
 
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