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Ndigila,

I asked you a question on the other thread. Did the apostles work on Sabbath day? History provides that until around 3rd century, only the church of Rome and Alexandria regarded Sunday as a special day but the rest of Christendom kept the Sabbath as the commandment of God demanded. Please separate communion from work because profaning the Sabbath means work.

The state of the dead couldn't change because Jesus resurrected. Actually the resurrection of the saints on the last day will be equal to all, whether you died in OT times, or you died today. About God not accepting anyone to honour the dead, it was because through the honour of the dead the pagans worshipped or communicated with the devils who masqueraded as the dead person, see the story of Saul and the dead Samuel. I'll give you several verses if you need to cross check.

Yes give me the links detailing the defence against the accusations on the church fathers. The only problem is that they might be written by the same orthodox believers who will be in defence of their position. Personally I tend to follow history of Sabbath from secular history comparing the facts across board.

I think on scriptures I'll leave it that God safeguarded His word. Somehow even scholarstic study of New Testament alone will contradict orthodoxy on a number of issues including her disregard of the book of Revelation, her interpretation of Salvation by faith alone, Christian walk as personified by the individual believer, and the meaning and extent of worship. It is amazing that they canonised books that can be used against them, yet left behind the books that could strengthen their doctrines as I exemplified before.