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Communion activities are documented very rarely in the early Church's history. It was also done any time the faithfulls had chance to meet so nothing to do with Sunday, and personally I dont consider it the determining factor to worship because it is simply a ceremony anyone can do without heart searching and true reverence.
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Again, Grip, its your personal conviction against history. The Roman empire accused Christians of being cannibals. You know why?
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By the way the fathers you provided as evidence for Sunday observance are in dispute, therefore it is difficult to convince me about their authenticity.
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Who's disputing them and why?
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On remnants, documents could not be written by a people who had been deprived of their freedom, whose writings were destroyed, and who were not an organised group. There presence is factified by the persecution itself and reformation. They were truly in the wilderness as recorded in the prophecy. If God did not say that 7000 individuals were still in Israel in His honour during Jezebel's persecution, how could you know?
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Exactly, Grip, there is no evidence of the remnant so for you to insist that the remnant existed is a personal vendetta against the church. To make the remnant story credible, you first have to show where the church erred. And you also have to explain why the remnant insists on using the canon of the pagan church. Remeber the main pillar of the reformed church is
sola scriptura (Bible only).
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Please reason with me why the apostles would look for a place of prayer on a Sabbath day, and specifically a place for prayers.
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The ancient church met on the sabbath on the eleventh hour to usher in the Lord's day. The celebration continued the whole night in what is commonly called an all-night vigil, and was completed in the morning by Communion.
There's an interesting article about it
here
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On sacrament, would you describe for me the current ingredients and shape of orthodox sacrament? I am aware of the Catholics's which is very different from that offered by Jesus at the Lord's supper.
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I'm not sure what you're asking here. Tafadhali rephrase.
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Eastern orthodox is said to have special days to celebrate or honour departed souls. I find this practice very weird.
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Again, you have to show why it's wrong. Not because you personally disagree with it.
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Something I know about the bible is that not all God's given messages were included. I also know that someone like Jude quoted from the book of Enoch, a book personally I can not agree with on a number of points. So there is more to the canonisation of the scriptures which simply speaks of God's hand in the entire work.
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So Grip, where do you go to find the rest of God's given messages?