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Originally Posted by grip_daddy
The error of the Church
What is the reasoning attributed to Catholic's acts of torturing, burning, anguishing, persecuting and even hunging the erratics? The early church gave excommunication as a way to deal with those that had fallen away from the faith, but not persecution.
Those persecuted were not the mainstream orthodox churches, contrary to what Jesus had said in the sermon of the mount and the foretelling of the end times events. Persecution was stated by Him like a promise. First, do you think any persecuting power is from God? And, do you think if a persecuting power is targeting a particular group, then the group spared means complicence?
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Once again Grip, I'm not dealing with the Catholic church, I'm dealing with the Orthodox church. In any case, while I don't support the persecution of heretics, there is no evidence that those heretics were the true followers of Christ's teachings.
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Originally Posted by grip_daddy
Finally, asking me to prove where the church deviated from the truth is same as asking a Jew where they went wrong, they wont admit. Jews are still waiting for the coming of the Messiah to rule over them.
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No, no, no, Grip. What i'm asking for is simple: If you claim that the Orthodox church fell into paganism, you have to be able to show at which point in history (even if it's a slow progression) as to when this addition occurred. All you've done so far is claimed that they've fallen into paganism because they have doctrines which you personally disagree with.