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Grip, the commandments in exodus 34 were written by God (in person).
The commandments that God wrote for the second time were the same very commandments He wrote on the first tables of stones, and the very commandments He spoke by His mouth to the Children of Israel. So I dont see a different set of commandments. In this chapter too, there are other words God summarily spoke to Moses which were not recorded in the table of stones.
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Grip, the commandments in exodus 34 are as follows
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You shall not worship any other god, for the LORD is 'the Jealous One'; a jealous God is he.
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Do not make a covenant with the inhabitants of that land; else, when they render their wanton worship to their gods and sacrifice to them, one of them may invite you and you may partake of his sacrifice.
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Neither shall you take their daughters as wives for your sons; otherwise, when their daughters render their wanton worship to their gods, they will make your sons do the same.
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"You shall not make for yourselves molten gods.
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"You shall keep the feast of Unleavened Bread. For seven days at the prescribed time in the month of Abib you are to eat unleavened bread, as I commanded you; for in the month of Abib you came out of Egypt.
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"To me belongs every first-born male that opens the womb among all your livestock, whether in the herd or in the flock.
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The firstling of an ass you shall redeem with one of the flock; if you do not redeem it, you must break its neck. The first-born among your sons you shall redeem. "No one shall appear before me empty-handed.
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"For six days you may work, but on the seventh day you shall rest; on that day you must rest even during the seasons of plowing and harvesting.
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3 "You shall keep the feast of Weeks with the first of the wheat harvest; likewise, the feast at the fruit harvest at the close of the year.
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Three times a year all your men shall appear before the Lord, the LORD God of Israel.
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Since I will drive out the nations before you to give you a large territory, there will be no one to covet your land when you go up three times a year to appear before the LORD, your God.
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"You shall not offer me the blood of sacrifice with leavened bread, nor shall the sacrifice of the Passover feast be kept overnight for the next day.
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"The choicest first fruits of your soil you shall bring to the house of the LORD, your God. "You shall not boil a kid in its mother's milk."
These are not the same as the Commandments in exodus 20.
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He selectively mentioned commandments to teach an underlying truth; that the commandments given had a deeper meaning, whether the ten, or the ceremonial, or the civil laws. On the Mount His intent was to preach to His listeners the spirit of the law and principles of life according to God's love, mercy, and justice. Remember the same confusion about changing the law looked apparent to his listeners that's why He emphatically stated in Matt 5:17 onwards that He did not come to abolish the law.
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Agreed, but why do those who insist that Christians obey the sabbath, not insist on following the whole law?
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I also study church's history to see how different doctrines emerged, how they understood God's providence and leadership, how they acquired divergent practices, and how such practices, beliefs, and doctrines maybe a reflection to secular philosophies of their times, if any doctrine may have had a pagan influence, and if any system of belief meet the test methods given by the bible. Paul said that we try every spirit, and the bible clearly outlines the criteria to do the evaluation.
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Grip, the source of divergent doctrines is the 16th century reformation, which completely did away with church Tradition. Before that, there were only three churches claiming to hold the apostolic faith (Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox).
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Remember the bible talked of those who will err from the faith, those who were among the membership of the church, but they went away from the church to teach their own gospel. Paul encountered them, John dealt with them, Peter talked of their coming, and Jude cautioned againist them. So traditions that are not according to biblical ratified doctrines must be questioned, and discarded if found wanting.
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Those who the apostles dealt with were the Judaizers, Gnostics, Docetists, and the Nicholaitans. On another interesting note, by today's standards, the Docetists and Nicholaitans would be considered simply as another Christian denomination.