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Default 04-25-2008, 03:49 AM

Just as you struggle with your belief in trinity and what it means, and how you can reconcile it with the belief in monotheism which is affirmed in the Old Testament

Read Gen 1:26, 3:18, and 11:7 then tell me the interpretation of the word us in those verses. Also read Isaiah 9 and tell me why the son that is born to us is called the mighty God. The Old Testament affirms trinity more than the New Testament.

as confusion is inevitable for everyone who turns away from the light of revelation that came down from Allaah, similarly Christians are confused about the doctrine of redemption.

If there are Christians that are confused, then I am not one of them. Reading what you have posted so far as biblical contradiction tells me that you lack proper understanding to biblical texts, which therefore means that the confused party is you (due to lack of deeper analysis and conceptual application of these texts) but I hope some clarifications will come by as we continue with our discussions.

Does redemption mean saving all of mankind, as John says: “…Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world” I John 2:1-2 (NIV)?

When you consider that everyone has sinned, and Jesus died for all, you will realise that redemption was for all. Redemption was, is, and shall forever remain universal.

OR is it only for those who believe and are baptized: “Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned” Mark 16:16 (NIV)? you answer that please.


The person whose redemption price has been paid must accept and acknowledge that he has been freed. For example, if there is a country that has slaves, then a person comes and pays for the slaves (let's say buys the slaves), then the slaves are told to go with the new master or remain within the country, would you now say that the price of those who refused to go with new master was not paid? No. The new master paid for every single slave, but the slaves must agree and accept the new master since the new master offered them a choice to accept or reject his offer.

In this light, our redemption price had been paid by the blood of Christ (dying for us), but for us to benefit from this death, we must believe, exercise faith, and be followers of Christ.

Forgiveness of sins through the sinner’s repentance is what befits the kind and merciful God –

When an individual has seen and realized that he is a sinner (from the concept that all have sinned) and known the consequences of sin, "for the wages of sin is death", he will know that his ultimate end is eternal death. That he is lost. That his life has no purpose. That he is wreckless, worthless, a useless being who deserves death and nothing else. When this individual then realizes that God the creator has mercies, that out of His love he sent His only begotten Son to die for him, to create an avenue in which his sins can be counted as though he didn't commit them, but were laid on the body of Christ who buried them in the earth at His death, then this sinner repents, begs for mercy, and asks for forgiveness, God shall surely forgive him.

not sacrifice and crucifixion and the shedding of blood. This is what the Bible says: I desire mercy, not sacrifice. For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners (to repentance)” Matthew 9:13 – NIV (the words “to repentance” do not appear in the NIV but are present in the “King James” or “Authorized” translation of the Bible).

God does not require sacrifices from man in order to forgive him because He is the one who provided the sacrifice. Hebrews 9 teaches that even the sacrifices that were offered during the Old Testament times could not remit sins, but were a foreshadow of Jesus great sacrifice. It was because of this sacrifice offered by Jesus that God could have a just way of granting pardon. As said earlier, the death and sacrifice of Jesus was the price through which man enslaved in sin could be freed. The slave did not have to pay for his freedom because the price had been paid by another. No one in the earth's history has offered any sacrifice to get God's forgiveness, so God does not require Sacrifices.

Question to you, why do you say that God does not require sacrifices by quoting the bible which also says that Jesus died for our sins? Why do you say that some parts of the bible are actually what God requires yet you dont believe in it?
 


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