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Default 11-22-2007, 01:37 AM

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Muslims and Christians agree that it is impossible for God to inspire error in His Word. But no one can deny that the Koran contains a large number of errors. Dr. Robert Morey lists over 100; e.g., citing Ali's translation, the Koran teaches the Ark of Noah came to rest on the top of Mt. Judi (Sura 11:44), not Mt. Ararat as the Bible teaches; that Abraham's father was Azar (Sura 6:74), not Terah as the Bible teaches; that he attempted to sacrifice Ishmael (Sura 37:100-112), not Isaac as the Bible teaches; that Pharaoh's wife adopted Moses (Sura 28:8-9), not his daughter as the Bible teaches; that Noah's flood occurred in Moses'day (Sura 7:136, cf., 7:59ff); that Mary, the mother of Jesus, gave birth to Jesus under a palm tree (Sura 19:22), not in a stable as the Bible teaches; that Mary's father was named Imram (Sura 66:12), etc.

The Koran has many biblical distortions. Almost every biblical episode discussed in the Koran has additional and/or contrary information supplied: "The names and events of Old Testament books and prophets are very definitely copied in the Koran. However, often the stories in the Koran are garbled and confused." For example, in Sura 2:56, 57, 61 the Jews returned to Egypt after the Exodus which, biblically and historically, was never the case. In Sura 3:41 it is stated that Zacharias would be speechless for three days. Biblically, it was until John's birth—nine months (Luke 1:18-20). In Sura 12:11-20 the Koranic story of Joseph is markedly different from the biblical story of Genesis 37; the accounts are so contrary as to demand one be in error. In Sura 2:241 Muhammad confuses the persons of Saul and Gideon. There are also variations in Sura 12:21-32, 36-55 when compared with Genesis 37-45. Whether it is the descriptions of the creation of man, the Fall, Moses and the burning bush, Noah and the ark, Joseph going into Egypt, or the life of Zechariah, John the Baptist, Mary and Jesus, or other biblical characters, the Koran often contradicts biblical teaching.

Yet the Koran also explicitly claims to "confirm the Book of Moses and the Gospel." So if the Bible is historically accurate, then it is the Koran that must be in error.

Muslims Beat Women



I do not understand why if Mohammed was such a "holy" man, why he would advocate beating women. A holy man of God would NEVER beat a woman. I have printed below what is written in Koran concerning women and the Muslim's position on beating them:

Men have authority over women. (Koran 2:228)

In the home:

"Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the others, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them." (Koran 4:34)

"Mothers shall suckle their children two years completely, for such as desire to fulfill the suckling....But if the couple desire by mutual consent and consultation to wean, then it is no fault in them." (Koran 2:233)

Women who disobey their husband will go to hell. (Koran 66:10).

"Thou mayest decline for the present whom thou wilt of them, and thou mayest take to thy bed her whom thou wilt, and whomsoever thou shalt long for of those thou shalt have before neglected; and this shall not be a crime in thee. Thus will it be easier to give them the desire of their eyes... and to satisfy them with what thou shalt accord to each of them." (Koran 33:51)

In society:

Women do not have equal right to their inheritance (Koran 4:11-12) Women receive half of the male share for an equivalent degree of kinship. Women who disobey should be beaten:

"Good women are obedient.... As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you, take no further action against them." (Koran 4:34)



Given the way Muslims treat women, one should be amazed that two of the most recent disastrous suicide bombers in Jerusalem, were Palestinian Muslim women, actually young girls 17 years old. Why would a woman want to give her life for a cult that treats them like animals?

At 56 Years Old, Mohammed Married A 7-Year Old Baby Girl And Doesn't That Make Mohammed a Child Molesting Pedophile and a Rapist ?
Mohammed, at age Twenty-five (25) married his boss, a forty (40) year old rich woman named Khadijeh, after she proposed to him. They had four daughters together but we know a lot about one daughter named Fatemeh. When Khadijeh died Mohammad at age fifty-six asked to marry Ayesha, daughter of his friend and first follower Abobakr. She was just a seven years old baby.

Abobakr requested from Mohammed to wait till she reached the age nine before consummating their marriage. So at age fifty-Eight the great “Prophet”, raped a nine-year-old child. This is a sick act of an animal today and it was back then also.

That is the reason for marriage age for girls age is nine years old (and sometimes younger in Islam).

Then Mohammad married anywhere between 29 to 45 more women. According to Ebn Abbas, "The highest member of Moslems who is the Prophet Mohammed has also the highest appetite for women." The Koran says a Muslim may have up to four (4) wives. I guess there was an exception made in Mohammed’s case.

In another place Mohammed claimed God told him that "we have made such women available to you without any payment to them, these are all your cousins, slave women and any Moslem woman who would like to give you herself free of charge." So slavery at least for women was quite common.

Mohammad even asked his own adopted son, Zaid Ebn Hares, to divorce his wife, Zeinab, so that he could marry her. When the members of tribe protested this marriage, because the daughter-in-law was considered like one's daughter, Mohammed answered that he received a revelation from God, that "A Moslem man cannot adopt another man's child." Hence Hares was not his real son, therefore he could marry his adopted son's wife.

When Mohammad and his wife Khadijeh adopted Zaid they were not Moslem. Prophet must obey God's word and therefore, Zaid is not his son and Zeinab is not his daughter-in-law (according to Mohammad). That is why adoption is prohibited in Islam.

Jesus said in Matthew 18:6, and Mark 9:42, that whoever harms a child it would be better for him to have a millstone tied around his neck and to be thrown into the deepest sea. A millstone was so large that it took several men to move it. Therefore, if one was tied around the neck of somebody and they were tossed into the sea, it would be impossible for them to resurface. It could be argued here that Jesus was advocating the death penalty for child abusers.

Mohammed was the lowest filth of all, by raping a little baby. If you are a follower of Islam, you are following a belief handed down by a filthy child molester. Think about it!

1 Timothy 2:12
I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.

Adoption refused???? that is a lie..

Quran 33:5] You shall give your adopted children names that preserve their relationship to their genetic parents. This is more equitable in the sight of GOD. If you do not know their parents, then, as your brethren in religion, you shall treat them as members of your family. You do not commit a sin if you make a mistake in this respect; you are responsible for your purposeful intentions. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.

[33:36] No believing man or believing woman, if GOD and His messenger issue any command, has any choice regarding that command. Anyone who disobeys GOD and His messenger has gone far astray.

[33:37] Recall that you said to the one who was blessed by GOD, and blessed by you, "Keep your wife and reverence GOD," and you hid inside yourself what GOD wished to proclaim. Thus, you feared the people, when you were supposed to fear only GOD. When Zeid was completely through with his wife, we had you marry her, in order to establish the precedent that a man may marry the divorced wife of his adopted son. GOD's commands shall be done.

[33:38] The prophet is not committing an error by doing anything that is made lawful by GOD. Such is GOD's system since the early generations. GOD's command is a sacred duty.

[33:39] Those who deliver GOD's messages, and who reverence Him alone, shall never fear anyone but GOD. GOD is the most efficient reckoner.
 
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