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Default RE: Free will and predestiny - 04-25-2006, 11:18 AM

>Kemi answer me this one question:
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>Before he created me, God said I will die on (mm/dd/yyyy) no
>matter what I do I will die on that day. I can't chose to not
>die and say 'hey can I go to my daughter's wedding the next
>day?'

You assume that you know the day. Do you?
Why do you assume that you will have pressing matters that you may not be prepared to die at that time?
What if you are terminally ill for cancer and thats what you want? Will you still be asking God to give you life and continue suffering or take it away?
Why do you assume that because (mm/dd/yyyy) exists that you will die your life will be less worthwhile.....that so many things you could do you wont be able to do?

Can you see strings...point at coincidences throughout your life that show a pattern? Perhaps fibonacci sequence/gaussian sequence/etc...that can then lead you to say YES...EUREKA!!!!...look at what I have discovered my life is pre-destined...now on this and this day I will pass away.
It is simply a matter of belief...you can choose either to see it as that or not.

Isnt that why you are arguing right now...feeling that your life is limited? Doesn't this argument you are having right now contradict your feeling that we have no influence on our own decisions...based on our understanding of how we function?

This does not mean that God is not aware of our decisions that we have made or will make...or are making.

>Do I have free will in that case or am I predestined?
>Life's not a garden so don't be a hoe

How about you are both...pre-destined...because God knows the decisions you will make...have made....he is omniscient. And free-willed because from your limited perspective of life you see that whatever you have wanted/desired/done has impacted directly in your life...from your own perceptions you are drawing your own string.

What does it take to think that you are both pre-destined and free-willed. Belief. If you believe in God why then would you attempt to think that anything is contradictory? that things are not going as planned? Are you in any position to hold such a view with your limited sentience?

 
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