[satjas]

Hey croach

>You were made from a union of the sperm and egg, do you think
>it is impossible for God to recreate you on the Day of
>Reckonning?

there is no day of reckonning, lol!!!! what happened to the version that we were made from clay? mud? or from a rib??? do you see how ridiculous these theories are???


>God gives life and takes life and although you were involved
>in ending that particular persons life doesn't mean you are
>free from blame.

but if it all happened with God's knowledge because God is in control then God was involved too, is that too difficult to understand? Can't you see that what you are saying doesn't make sense???

>The body is where the soul resides and for
>the soul to function in a body it needs to function minimally.

hmmmm.......another statement just to fill space, WHAT DO YOU MEAN??

>If the corporeal ceases to be bale to sustain the soul the
>spirit eventually leaves the body and goes to its maker.

I'll hold you on this statement because you claim it goes to some place before judgement and if it goes to its maker then what about the claims that it goes to hell? Or isn't God also in hell, cos God has to be everywhere??? omnipresent???


>This has solely to do with your inability to conduct a
>civilised discussion.

how true!!!! this is exactly the clash of civilisations that Wafa Sultan was talking about, your 7th century civilisation and our 21st one!!!!

>You are unable to exhaust a topic but
>instead jumps around to anotehr topic only to come back to it
>later in another post. You want to know the rules of "Talaq"?
>Go read, do a google and you will know what is said about
>giving three 'talaq'. But I guess it gives the impression to
>other readers that you haev a valid point if you sneak it in
>in the middle of another discussion.

The fallacies of your ideology can never be exhausted...there are bundles, tons of them...and they are all interrealated.......Crazy that even your allah had to abrogate soem messages, like he cocked up and then had to remedy his stupidity....i thought god was always correct from day 1??????


>What quotes and who is talking about quotes? Only you are.

the ones from your kooooran silly!!!! and the one's you post as well.......guess what? we both give quotes from the same book and you don't like it....nyeh , nyeh, nyeh!!!

>I'm
>talking about your conduct as a human being using this media,
>and since you can't tackle it it is easy to run to these
>"quotes" you keep talking about and press the letter 'o' a few
>extra times hoping to mock a bit more in the process.

Human beings do not screw 9 year old girls, they do not kill apostates, they don't go beserk over some silly cartoons.

> I'm
>starting to understand how you fucntion, it is easier dealing
>with you now because I used to waste a lot of time trying to
>discuss in a civil manner. Grow a brain and learn to discuss.

Once again i am inferior and you are superior, you have a brain and i don't....please let me know how i function cos even i don't know that myself........

>Yes you are illogical and using sophistry to avoid conceding
>an error will not help.

perfect, like the kooran does right? oops!! wrong verse sent, let's abrogate it. Are you hereby stating that allah is also illogical and uses sophistry to concede errors?? were the satanic verses in the koooran errors????



>Do you have dyslexia or neglect? Where do you see taht they
>should be put to death by human beings? They will be punished
>for their disbelief, BY GOD!

Yuo nveer caese to clal mi naems....do i gte to yuo croach?? ati now i am dyslexic or neglected??? lol!!!! So tell us how does allah punish them??? by giving them cars and houses and land? or by burning them in hell fire?? You are trying to hide the fact that it means death, killing........you cannot seem to equate punishment via allah as an order to kill............but i'll let you on a secret.....it's in your KOOOOOORAN!!!!!


>You evidently don't grasp a thing I'm saying :)

ditto!!!

>EARTH TO SATJAS...BY GOD IN THE HEREAFTER!

Hmmm........do you claim to speak for god now????

>Are you living in pre-westphalia times? It is the job of
>authorites to deal with any elements in society that do not
>conform. And the spiritual leaders are doing their part, but
>enforcing the laws are done by the state. These are small
>groups but I guess it helps you in your argument to try and
>paint this as a mainstream problem, whatever floats your
>boat.

aren't you the same person who said that the spiritual laws aka sharia laws are above the law of the land??? that they take priority...i don't have time to look for it but i know you have said that here on mashada.....help, anyone? atlian, tm??

>A million children die of malaria a year in Africa, millions
>die each day in the world because of lack of water and basic
>healthcare. 85% of the world lives on undera dollar a day and
>cannot afford basic things like water electricty and decent
>healthcare, but you are obsessed with terrorism. That is the
>language of the rich countries in teh west, terrorism is
>highest on theri agenda but monetary equality for everyone is
>highest on the agenda of those who really care.

Coach what the hell are you then doing seated in london???? how are you helping these poor kids coach????

>Over six million people have died in Congo the last seven
>years, do you even care? Or are you just preoccupied with
>terrorism conducted by some deranged individuals in teh west?

yes and many more in darfur.....simply because they were not arabs, a superior race, muslims mostly.......how do you know whether i care or not? have you been with me to know what i have done in my life???

>I don't blame you either, you are a victim of a system that is
>made to blame Islam (and not a few disenfranchised Muslims)
>for all atrocties in teh world.

how many of these few have you got in your midst, now that you admit there is a problem?????????????

>I see a problem but it is not the problem you see. I see that
>America invaded Afghansitan to remove the despotic Taliban but
>still left the country in a worse of situation than they found
>it (PS: Opium is also flowing now that the Taliban are out)

opium was still flowing even then......guess what, it's still the aghani people who grow it....you have not been to afghanistan to know what situation it is in have you??? Please do not state things as if you know......when were you there last? did we meet???


>You show me a verse of teh Qur'an taht says apostates should
>be tried and killed and then we will continue with discussion.
>Until then, put a lid it!

exactly, like all else, you'd like to put a lid on everything......you've been putting on the lid for the last 14 centuries but now when people question you have no answers, you are busy puting on lids on everything, the aisha factor (fvkedher) the apostacy, the satanic verses....name it its all there in the koooran.

>Faith is a matter of choice, if my children choose to believe
>in God then that would be great. If they don't then it is
>their loss. There is no compulsion in religion!

You see that is where we are fundamentally diverse. IF my children (god willing) were to believe about god that would be great, if they didn't that would be great too!!!!! then i can say there is no compulsion in 'religion'. I wouldn't see it as a loss.


>I can see taht you are using teh smae langauge as the
>extremists, maybe you have more in common with them.

and which extremists are these coach?? i sure would like to know......

>The feeling is mutual, a donkey that is carrying a load of
>books is still a donkey.

Hey yeah, but a donkey carrying the books across the river and drinking the water voluntarily (without compulsion) because it knows it will get nourishment from the water is different from the donkey that carries the books but doesn't drink the water because it is been brainwashed (compelled) into thinking there are 72 virgin donkeys and plenty of wine across the river......comprendez???


>Well these forums will be there for you to see in the
>hereafter it will be evident that you chose to disbelieve.

Coach, don't be silly...you said our souls would go back to the maker but you also said that God and his creation are seperate......so how will we be able to see these forums that are here in this creation??? do you see how ill informed your statements can sometimes be? you don't know whether you are coming or going.....


> I
>will be there with you in spirit, not to have a last laugh but
>to feel taht you refused to see the light although it was
>glaring in your face.

Coach that is so true.......it was a glaring light that said 'DO NOT ENTER, ONLY MUSLIMS ALLOWED'...........so i turned and ran!!!!!!!

-the paradigm shifter.......God's friend.

The soul is that which beholds beauty even when the mind denies it.