>I concur with you on this. I cannot quite remember which post
>Atlian mentioned something to this effect. His anaolgy was of
>a child killer going to heaven because his religion says he
>can be forgiven while the little girl rots in hell...
Chotadipo,
here's my analogy in full. I hope this is the one you meant.
I didn't mention this when I posted the below article - but since Amy wasn't saved when she died, according to Christian belefs, that means she'll also be in hell with her mum, Idi Amin and Lotodo, while Frank relaxes in heaven with Abraham and John the Baptist. WTF???
http://www.mashada.com/forums/index....ng_type=search
"Amy Sue Seitz, and the only unforgiveable sin"
This is a very sad, but true story. Some psycho called Theodore Francis Frank kidnapped Ms. Amy Sue Seitz. He forced her to drink alcohol, raped her repeatedly, then tortured her horribly with a pair of pliers. He squeezed both her nipples in the pliers with such force that her nipples were left as flat as a paper. Then he peeled off her skin with the same pliers while she was still alive. From there he punched her head repeatedly and with such brute force that her skull cracked in numerous places resulting in a massive brain hemorrhage. Then he raped Amy again and again and when he was satisfied, he strangled her to death. He then threw her body into a trash heap on his way home. Some guy's dogs then found the body and ravaged it some more before their owner realized what the meat being ravaged was, and called the cops. Theodore Francis Frank was 43 years old, while Amy Sue Seitz was a 24 month old, 32 pounds heavy, 32 inches tall baby girl!
It says in the bible in Mathew 12:31-32, Mark 3:29 and Luke 12:10 that EVERY sin can be forgiven except one. This ONE unforgiveable sin is not the grave sins of pedophilia or infanticide committed by Theodore Francis Frank - the one sin is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.
Mathew 12:31-32: "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
I think - and this is the point of my post - that of all the sins god could have chosen to make unforgivable, he chose the wrong one.
According to the bible, if Theodore Francis Frank confessed his sins, asked for forgiveness and accepted Christ as his personal savior, he would go to heaven and live happily ever after with god, Abraham, Elijah, etc. On the other hand, let's assume that Sherry Roberts (Amy's mum) came and saw her daughters body. Of course she'd be totally devastated and grief-stricken. Lets assume that in the heat of the moment she cursed the holy ghost, asking how the holy ghost could let that happen to her daughter. The bible says because Sherry blasphemed the Holy Ghost even if the blasphemous words were uttered in a grief-stricken moment - she would be doomed to eternal hell fire. It doesn't matter if she had been a godly person before Amy's death, and continued to be a godly person after. It doesn't matter that she only blasphemed because of the grief of seeing her daughter's body. According to the bible and Jesus, Sherry would roast slowly forever in hell with Pol Pot and Hitler, while Theodore Francis Frank would spend the rest of his life in Heaven, playing nyabs with Angel Gabriel and Moses, and having Sunday coffee every once in a while with Mother Theresa. Heck, he might even bump into Amy there every once in a while! WTF?
My question is, why would god view the attrocities committed to Amy as forgivable, then view Sherrys blasphemy as unforgivable? How can this view be fair, and how can a fair god take such a view. Of course I have a ton of other related questions - like what sort of god would create Theodore Francis Frank? Why didnt god stop him as her nipples were being flattened to pulp? Why didn't god stop him before he raped her for the Nth time?
I don't believe in god, but if I did, there is no way I would worship a god with such twisted priorities, or a god who allows such things to happen!