[Mbajuni]

>I don't claim to know you and have no need whatsoever......and
>as far as you think i have ulterior motives, may i point out
>that I will raise red flags whenever falsehood is
>preached...especially the one in your holy books......do i
>have to be more blatant than that?

Stop adding salt into the pot...I am talking about what you said about my intentions on posting this board not about the previous quotes you have had in the Quran and otehr maarguments zako. So wacha kuchange topic ovyo ovyo


>thats just an apologetic stance cos you want to be seen as
>united with the christians but you would never have the
>ability to call a christian lady your sister..as in my sister
>in christ....would you? but you would a muslim lady

What an assumption AGAIN!!...I call black people my sisters whether muslim/christian/jew or whatever; and Muslimahs (muslim women), I call them my Muslim sisters. So again...STOP ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW ME.

> ....that is why you are only for face value not in depth love.

I loooooooooooooooooove my Kenyan people, but I like Africans
I loooooooooooooooooove my parents, but I like my family-friends.
I loooooooooooooooooove my blood sisters, but I like my friends
I loooooooooooooooooove my best friend, but I like my aquaintances
I loooooooooooooooooove my Muslim sisters, but I like other women

Is there something wrong with this analogy?? One loves, what is closer to them. Obviously a Muslim sister is closer to me than a non-Muslim and a best friend is closer than an acquaintance and doesn't equate the same depth of love. It doesn't take a fool to know that.


>No that is not what i meant, and TM got it wrong as
>well......believe you me if we went into MooHamMad's childhood
>and the stuff he got up to you would wish you never asked this
>question...that's what i meant.

Then why don't you tell us about this so called childhood of his that would repulse us...and don't forget to source it...


>when it suits you you
>give quotes from the kooran but when asked you direct us
>towards google.......been there done that.

WHO ASKED??? Nobody asked...wacha kubadilisha topic and pointing to the sky when people are talking about the sea. I am the one who asked the question here, I am the one who posted the baord. I am more than glad if someone asks ME a question to provide a quote for the Quran. The point here is not that I want you all to google answers. The point again is that unlike the assumption you made about me posting this board...I will not bother to try and hint for people to ask me about the prophet's history because I know if they really wanted to they can look into it themselves so me expecting mtu ajibu..."oh, Jesus's childhood was like so....so what about prophet Muhammeds'?"...that is pure ujinga. If I posted this board expecting that as you suggested, I would be a fool as obviously there are very smart people who read these posts that if they really were curious they would go and research and not give me the benefit of a doubt to respond in that naive manner. But don't get me wrong....If someone ASKS...I will be at their beck and call...If someone misundertands...I will be there to clear things up as I also believe in self-directed learning. You learn at your pace, at your will and according to your own resources and there should always be someone there to clarify if you get things wrong. That my dear satjas is what I was referring to, and I was not telling people to stop asking me things and google it instead...so stop putting words onto my keyboard.


>Ofcourse you would like to preach that I am spreading hate yet
>all i have done is quote from the same kooran that you read
>from......thus this apparent hate is actually that which the
>kooran writes about.
>Secondly, just like i do not know you and have no need to,
>please do not judge me.

Who's preaching?? What in the world are you talking about??? Again, wacha kuchange topic ovyo ovyo. I commented on your assumptions about me and my actions on posting this board and your assumptions abotu intentions of Muslims not about your exact quotes from the Quran...

And stop playing innocent here. Ati "just like i do not know you and have no need to, please do not judge me." PULEEZZ!! You made your intentions loud and clear if you read the comments for the following questions below the next paragraph.

If you don't really want to know me then don't try making random guesses about my intentions because then you will have no choice but to when I have to clarify your wrong assumptions.


>You are looking for an ally in christians. And you are so
>wrong about the two. Christians generally do not hate as much
>as Islamists do......islamists only use the situation to suit
>them, when they have no need for christians , they would not
>hesistate to get rid of them....as the Bani Quaraiya(sp)
>experienced.

Firstly, "Islamist" is a political term...not the religion so watch your language. I am not Islamist and neither are most Muslims.

Secondly, it seems like you really have a problem with Muslims and Christians getting along...why?? Ok fine, if you have a problem with that shauri yako but why do you hate on me for wanting peace between people that I believe (plus the jews) are closer in beliefs than they are with any other religious groups? This is acting like the primo' child with no school friends who started rumours between two friends just because he/she thought..."if I don't have a friend, then no one will and I will make them ALL hate each other". I remember there were many of these who existed in those kitoto days. I am not judging you in general satjas...only the comments that you posted on my intentions over the past...you just said it yourself...you just questioned my goals for uniting christians and Muslims. Yes I admit I want "allys" in christians, but not in the war sense. I want an ally in the quest for better society, for the belief in one God and for peace. Is there anything wrong with that? You just said it yourself satjas...you seem to have an issue with that unison that I seek...How unfortunate that a literally sour apple rests in the basket. oops! Actually it rests outside the basket but jumped in...my bad!

So please don't stray from the main point when you reply to this message. Basically my point is (minus the examples, analogies and metaphors), just throw-out your ill-efforts of deciphering my intentions for posting this board and other comments over the past about the intentions for all Muslims. You have obviously stated your issues with Islam and Christianity clearly so I know where you stand...but I have never told you where I stand with the history of Jesus and clearly stated that I personally do not despise christians so don't make assumptions bana...that's all I ask. For example you say here..."when they [Muslims] have no need for christians , they would not hesistate to get rid of them". Can you really make that 100% prophesy?? I mean, who died and made you the psychic of the century??


(109.1) Say: O unbelievers!
(109.2) I do not serve that which you serve,
(109.3) Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:
(109.4) Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,
(109.5) Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:
(109.6) You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.