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Default RE: What age was Mary when she got Jesus? - 03-23-2006, 09:38 AM

sajtas,
>>TM,
>>Islam did not come to fight Christianity but to continue
>where
>>Jesus PBUH left off. You see my friend, ther was no Trinity,
>>celibacy, praying to or wearing a cross etc when Jesus PBUH
>>was alive. Islam recognises Christians (those who follow the
>>true teachings of Christ) and the Qur'an says this about
>>them...
>>
>>"Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the
>>Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,-
>any
>>who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work
>righteousness,
>>shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no
>>fear, nor shall they grieve." (Qur'an 2:62)
>>



>5:72 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah,
>son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel,
>worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth
>partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise.
>His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no
>helpers.
>
> Will Christians go to hell?
>
>Christians will be burned in the Fire.

Just go back and read what I said in the beginning about Islam taking on from where Jesus left off and you might understand.



>Coach, can i just say that it will take eons for you to
>understand the concept of the holy trinity, but I'll try and
>break it down for you....so you can tell your kids what you
>were once told.....
>The father, son and holy spirit......these are always
>interlinked...but not as the christians would want us to
>believe, try thinking God, people and spirituality. These 3
>things will always be connected, there is no point at which
>you can say this one stops and now this one begins.....lemme
>give you some more.....
>mind body and soul
>past present and future
>subconciousness, consciouness and superconsciousness
>energy , matter and antimatter
>here , there and the space in between
>thought, word and action
>
>if you can understand how these things are connected then you
>will understand why the 'holy trinity' came into being. I do
>not think its holy because ALL things are holy to me
>(omnipresence).


According to your logic, everything is inter-linked, so would it be fair to say that everything is God? You see, here is where you and Chritsians like TM depart, for you are a pantheist and Christians are monotheists who became polytheistic by ascribing to the notion of three gods.




>It would also be important for you to learn that life is not a
>process of discovery but of creation. We create as we go
>along. There can be nothing to discover if God already knows
>it is there. We simply don't. We are that part of God that has
>forgotten who it really is. But we are also that part of God
>that creates as we go along. can you understand this divine
>dichotomy? (apparent contradictions??)

I understand what you aer saying but that is far from me saying I accept it. As I've told you many a times before, creation is not something man can do, man can NOT create something out of nothing, we only use the materials available to us that has ben created by the Creator. Know the difference; creation - Creator, big difference! Man can never be the latter. You can get into semantics if you wish to complicate this, but I think you know what I'm referring to.
 
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