RE: What age was Mary when she got Jesus? -
03-22-2006, 05:18 PM
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>TM,
>Islam did not come to fight Christianity but to continue where
>Jesus PBUH left off. You see my friend, ther was no Trinity,
>celibacy, praying to or wearing a cross etc when Jesus PBUH
>was alive. Islam recognises Christians (those who follow the
>true teachings of Christ) and the Qur'an says this about
>them...
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>"Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the
>Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any
>who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,
>shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no
>fear, nor shall they grieve." (Qur'an 2:62)
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>Now does this sound like a faith that is based on bashing
>Christianity?
No Coach it doesn't, but we all know your selective mentality primed by the frequent visits to the local madarasa way back then. And here's a reminder of what else was said as we read further on.....from your Kooran, now don't say i made this up, read on...
5:72 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Lo! whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah, for him Allah hath forbidden paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evil-doers there will be no helpers.
Will Christians go to hell?
Christians will be burned in the Fire.
5:73 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.
> Not one of the three or
>any of the trinity but the SUPREME GOD. The same God that
>Jesus believed in and was crying to when he was about to be
>crucified and he said..."My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken
>Me?"
Coach, can i just say that it will take eons for you to understand the concept of the holy trinity, but I'll try and break it down for you....so you can tell your kids what you were once told.....
The father, son and holy spirit......these are always interlinked...but not as the christians would want us to believe, try thinking God, people and spirituality. These 3 things will always be connected, there is no point at which you can say this one stops and now this one begins.....lemme give you some more.....
mind body and soul
past present and future
subconciousness, consciouness and superconsciousness
energy , matter and antimatter
here , there and the space in between
thought, word and action
if you can understand how these things are connected then you will understand why the 'holy trinity' came into being. I do not think its holy because ALL things are holy to me (omnipresence).
It would also be important for you to learn that life is not a process of discovery but of creation. We create as we go along. There can be nothing to discover if God already knows it is there. We simply don't. We are that part of God that has forgotten who it really is. But we are also that part of God that creates as we go along. can you understand this divine dichotomy? (apparent contradictions??)
-the paradigm shifter.....God's friend.
The soul is that which beholds beauty even when the mind denies it.
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