[Coach]

sajtas,

>hey this guy doesn't know his micro from his macro.....but so
>what it was a spelling error!!
>Coach please do not try and sell this story of the miracles
>cos as far as i am concerned God is limitless in Her doings.
>Even that which makes no sense to you has an order to it.
>Get over it...i need no convincing. I do not believe in
>miracles.....miracles are for those who need reinforcement in
>their belief. For me every thing around me is a 'miracle' ,
>the mere fact that i can communicate with you is a miracle,
>everything and anything is a miracle to me.......i do not need
>to be impressed by some scientific gobbledegook to know a
>miracle.
>Anyone who understands God will know that miracles do not
>exist.....anybody can do it, one just has to know how. And
>i'll tell you one more thing, the bible and the kooran will
>not tell you how......it is not in the interest of religion to
>give people back the power they so deserve, something that is
>rightfully theirs.


trying to score brownie points? I have bad news for you, what he stated is fully correct, both in macro and micro, if you don't accept it please provide a reliable scientific source that proves otherwise.

For every Muslim, everything around is a miracle, afterall you do have some aspects of the psyche of a Muslim :) The Qur'an tells man to look at the skies, vegetation, man etc and to REFLECT upon these as they are all miracles. All Muslims know that life itself is a miracle and tehrefore what you are stating is nothing that contradicts the view of Islam, sorry! The amazing thing is that you can take these verses that were revealed over a millenia and a half ago and coompare it to contemporary science and you find no contradiction. That is the "miracle" and not what you claim that it is for "reinforcement", it does reinforce one's faith but that is not the purpose, because the believer believes and anything that adds to his/her belief is just a move towards the positive.





>>Well tacke it! With facts please, not guesswork, speculation
>>or unproven theories.
>
>Ok I will, let's not hurry here......so these elements that
>exist in man, can they also be in the soil, the mud? Yes, you
>answered that. Does it mean there are no more elements than
>the ones you mentioned? Ofcourse there are......but perhaps
>our bodies have no requirement for them? But let us look at
>the elements you listed Coach. Are they different from each
>other? No, break them down to simple parts ( and No, don't go
>too deep into nano nano bits) let's stick to the protons,
>electrons and neutrons.......are they any different from each
>other in All the elements?
>
>Lets give it a break here, don't wanna clog your time up or
>speculate or guess.....absorb this slowly.....and then we'll
>see the real miracle!!!!!!

You will have to come up with something spectacular that will earn you at least a Nobel Prize for your discovery. Most scientists are divided on issue of creation, most are atheists because God's existence can not be proved. But good sajtas here is going BEYOND that and is going to prove to us (not only God's existence) but HIS COMPOSITION! I can't wait!

PS: You don't impress me with your proton, neutron, electron talk and you better have good explanation. I work with positrons and electrons in my day to day work and I'm also familiar with particles all the way to qaurks and "strings". But hey, don't let that discourage you in your quest to tell us about God's composition.


TM,
As I've said many a times before, you jump on to anything that discredits Islam without any second look at it. I can post hundred of articles refuting what you just posted, but I'll refrain from that at the moment. If you want to seriously discuss this topic plese intiate a thread, or I can also do it and we can present the facts and discuss the topic there. Just give me the word and we'll get started InshaAllah.