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Default RE: Moses, Jesus......& Christianity - 02-24-2006, 09:08 PM

>I found this site very interesting (will read your posting
>later)
>
>The writter conviniently picks verses such as Acts2:11 to show/stress the ARAB presence, in
>other words the website author accepts that the book of Acts
>is a TRUE historical record
>
>BUT he conviniently misses out the MOST IMPORTANT issue
>concerning the WONDERS OF GOD message ....... WHICH is
>
>Acts2:38-39

>WHY doesnt he also accept the primary message as EQUALLY TRUE.
>The only reason is that it would go totally against the
>Islamic message cause it will expose muslims (just like all
>others) as sinners in need of Jesus' saving grace.


Lol! Your comment goes to show you truly did not read the WHOLE website. I think you need to re-read it again TM and THEN come posting a comment.

Firstly, the author does not quote Acts 2:38-39 because that is not related to his thesis. The discussion here is not whether we should repent our sins in the name of Jesus or not but the thesis is that Christians are ignorant of the Arabs relation to Christianity based on their own bible. To quote directly from the website(Since it appears like you didn't read it well)...

"In arguing their case against the Biblical prophecies of the Prophet of Islam in the Bible, many of the learned (and ignorant) Christians have resorted to speaking of the Arabs as an alien entity, as if they resided on the North American continent or Australia; far far away from all the Biblical scenery mentioned in the Bible. As if the Hebrews had no more than scant knowledge about their Arab brethren, then the Eskimos of Alaska had about the Zulus of South Africa. This is shown by the fact that the issue is not brought out into the open for discussion."

THESIS:
"As I intend to show, the Arabs formed an important component in the trade and commerce, wars, and so on of the region as did the Jews in those very same events and the normal everyday life. Much of what is stated here is based solely on the Bible.."

The author DOES use the bible quotes TRUE. But obviously there is no point using the Quran to prove that Islam and Christianity are the smae because YOU (the critics) do not believe in it DUH! So obviosly he/she has to use your own words and book. It's like someone telling you you are wrong because I say so???!!! Like HELLO!!

He/she uses it to put it IN YOUR FACE you could say (excuse the straightforwardness). It's like you guys signed a statement of admission and then came to the courtroom and denied your guilt. What the author is doing is bringing that statement forward and saying...eh bana! You say you are innocent lakiiiiiini...si your statement says this and that ..so please explain yourself...
In doing so...he/she does not automatically say you spoke the truth the first time. In contrast...it goes to highlight the lies and hypocrisy as you change your mind and try and HIDE the truth of the matter.

The author does not say ANYWHERE that he/she believes Acts to be an authentic source. As a matter of fact Muslims DO NOT believe in the new testament AT ALL!! The author simply points out that Christians are being hypocritical by outcasting the Muslims using YOUR holy book, whereas YOUR holy book has the Arabs mentioned as worshipping the Same God i.e.

"Cretes and Arabians we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God" (Acts 2:11)

He does not say that the Bible is an accurate account of history at all. He instead says that with the revision of the Bible, the word Arabia has been changed to "Desert Plain" to mask the relation between Christians and Muslims today. As a matter of fact at the end of the website he quotes the quran in saying..

"Ye People of the Book! (Jews and Christians) Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge?"
(Sura Al-Imran 3.071)

He does not NEED to quote Acts to show that we are of the same kind. The Quran itself says that..

(29.46) And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him do we submit.

WE muslims accept our whole Quran and admit that we are of the same people. The problem is that nyinyi bado mumekaa mukishindana tu although YOUR new testament that you claim to be God's word says so too. The author basically quotes the verses of the Bible to show how YOU Christians are the ones picking and choosing because YOU claim to BELIEVE in the new testament yet YOU deny that the Arabs worshipped the same God.

Please be careful next time you start pointing fingers and saying that we are the ones picking and choosing. The new testament is not OUR book after all...If YOU believe that Acts is legitimate (WHICH YOU MUST) then why do YOU deny that we Muslims worship the same God TM??

So my dear TM (Using your own words) it is YOU who is conviniently missing out the MOST IMPORTANT issues "concerning the WONDERS OF GOD message..." WHY don't YOU "also accept the primary message as EQUALLY TRUE"???The only reason is that it would go totally against the" christian "message cause it will expose" Muslims as a legitimate faith believing in the same God.

Stop shifting the blame of the crime on the person who doesn't even own the gun!! It's your book, your gun...We are just here to point out your crime of giving some verses in YOUR book the blind eye...FULL STOP, COMMA, COMMA, DASH, DASH! (Reminiscing those primo' days).

 
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