[TeamManager]

>Hey TM, tell me something; How are christians supposed to
>regard the jewish state of Israel?

Just like any other people-group, Christians are to see them as a people in need of knowing the love, grace and salvation that comes from the Lord.

The politics, security, history and suspision issues will never let that region sleep in peace

>Many of my friends (born again) in Kenya were openly in favour of
>Israel over the palestinians and painted a black and white picture
>in regards to the conflict. quite possibly they were influenced by
>the christian broadcasting stations in Kenya that borrow heavily
>from the christian right in the United States.

Bombing the Norfolk hotel in the 70's did not help Palestinians gain friends over in Kenya.
All in all I guess the media has played a big role in informing people ......BUT its more than just being informed/misinformed since our TV stations still broadcast the violence and revenge mission but still people are pro-Israel. I still believe that RELIGION plays the large role. Have you noticed how some people NEVER condemn DARFUR ad the slavery of blacks.

>I do know that jews and Israel occuppy a special place in
>God's scheme of things but it is difficult to reconcille the
>suffering of the palestinians.

Not everything that Israel does has a stamp of approval from God.

>Can you look at the faces of
>the palestinian kids in some refugee camp, terrified of
>israeli shells exploding around them, and argue that they
>deserve it because they are palestinians?

You are right, they don't deserve the suffering.

>He felt His mission was way above those conflicts.

His (Jesus) mission was to save us from our sin and then change us from within.


>So back to Israel. Can cChristians cheer a slaughter?

No. Just the thought that the slaughtered fellows are entering eternity with knowing Christ send shivers down our spine.

>Admittedly the palestians are responsibe for antrocities as
>well but to paint them as the bad guys and the Israelis as the
>good guys is a blatant lie. Is the city of jerusalem, iconic
>as it is, worth killing and torturing fellow human beings?

Jerusalem is a city that will never leave the 'minds' of people ... in a very long time.

>more so wehn we know that we do not need it for our salvation?
>that you can live in Mongolia all your life and still be right
>with God as long as you are Born again in truth and spirit?

@martin,

Who can assure Israel of its security?