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Default RE: Christians and the State of Israel. - 10-20-2005, 09:03 PM

martin77,

> Many of my friends (born
>again) in Kenya were openly in favour of Israel over the
>palestinians and painted a black and white picture in regards
>to the conflict. quite possibly they were influenced by the
>christian broadcasting stations in Kenya that borrow heavily
>from the christian right in the United States.


BINGO! There are two factors that have led to this...

1. Most of the policy makers and lobby groups in Washington are Jews (incl major think-tanks like the well-known American Enterpise Institute - AEI). They have been shaping the American foreign policy for a good 50 years (anyone who knows some history especially the rise of Zionism, the role the Jews of USA especially New York contra the Bolsheviks and the factors that led to the inhumane Balfour declaration knows that this relationship dates further back than 50 years).

2. The Republicans in power are naive, short-sighted, ignorant right wingers who want to "accelerate" and facilitate (or so they think) the return of Jesus Christ by ensuring that the Jews rule the land of Philistine - this has to do with the prophecy.

Put the two together and your recipe is complete.




> Can you look at the faces of
>the palestinian kids in some refugee camp, terrified of
>israeli shells exploding around them, and argue that they
>deserve it because they are palestinians?

Whoever controls the media decides how the conflict is potrayed. Do some homework om who owns the major news corporations in the world and you migth see a connection.



>So back to Israel. Can cChristians cheer a slaughter?
>Admittedly the palestians are responsibe for antrocities as
>well but to paint them as the bad guys and the Israelis as the
>good guys is a blatant lie.

They are actually doing worse than potraying the Palestinians as bad...they are actually potraying them as two waring factions who are in conflict. How can you compare a country with over 200 nuclear warheads and one of the most sophisticated weaponry, army, intelligence force etc with a nation that has no army, no airforce (not even a single fighter jet or helicopter), no proper police force and no control over their borders? How can these two countries be potrayed as two countries in conflict? One is obviously the agressor and the other are victims.



teejay,
>This is also another important thing you have raised. The
>violence in the Middle East. Well, that violence is more than
>meets they eye. It is not political but very religious in its
>every nature and it is going to get worse before a self
>appointed peace broker pops up. The potters and executers of
>this violence are in Washington receiving directives from
>their headquarters in Rome, yes you guessed right Vatican the
>monastery where the self proclaimed leader of Christendom
>hides. Vatican uses America to evangelize the world.

This is paranoia at its best (worst?)! The conflict is purtely territorial...Jews and Muslims have not had any major problems prior to the balfour Declaration. There is a lot of paranoia among Protestants regarding the Vatican, yes they are secretive and the Catholic church has been responsible for many conspiracies and atrocities before but they no longer weild any political prowess anymore. The church and the state got a divorce a long time ago in Europe, only the right wingers in America mention God at all in the west and tehre is no political collaboration with the symbolic state in Rome.
 
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