[teejay]

>Hey TM, tell me something; How are christians supposed to
>regard the jewish state of Israel? Many of my friends (born
>again) in Kenya were openly in favour of Israel over the
>palestinians and painted a black and white picture in regards
>to the conflict. quite possibly they were influenced by the
>christian broadcasting stations in Kenya that borrow heavily
>from the christian right in the United States.

Martin you remembers there is a post Where I talked of rapture briefly trying to show that it is misrepresented. The basis of most Christian favoring Israel is solely originating from this theory which is also known as futurism. When I return I will try to explain why most Christians still think that Israel is till God’s chosen, which apparently is not the case any more? These people rejected Christ and stuck to their ceremonial worship and therefore forfeited their rightful place in God’s good books and thus their house (Temple) therefore was left desolate unto them. See in the bible where Christ weeps for Jerusalem forewarning of the dangers that loom and hovers over the city because of her harsh criticism against the messiah. Today we have a new Israel which is you and me and that is if we accept Christ. The current Israel is just a nation like any other nation on that face of this earth. For a more detailed information on this Check out THE GREAT CONTROVERY by Ellen G White. It gives incisive details on the origin of Israel’s problems when Emperor Titus raided the city and not one stone was left lying on another.

>I do know that jews and Israel occuppy a special place in
>God's scheme of things but it is difficult to reconcille the
>suffering of the palestinians. Can you look at the faces of
>the palestinian kids in some refugee camp, terrified of
>israeli shells exploding around them, and argue that they
>deserve it because they are palestinians?

This is also another important thing you have raised. The violence in the Middle East. Well, that violence is more than meets they eye. It is not political but very religious in its every nature and it is going to get worse before a self appointed peace broker pops up. The potters and executers of this violence are in Washington receiving directives from their headquarters in Rome, yes you guessed right Vatican the monastery where the self proclaimed leader of Christendom hides. Vatican uses America to evangelize the world. In Vatican terminology when the pope talks of evangelism or crusades he means war on heretics or antipopes. This I intends to show you in my next posting. In the mean time look for a book in the name of SECRET TERRORIST by Bill Hughes Read about world war1 and 2. It will give you an insight some of the problems in the Middle East. Also refer to SUNDAY LAW by Pacific Publications.

>harder still is to reconcille that to the image of Jesus
>sitting on the edge of that well with a samaritan woman (an
>enemy) and offering to give her the greatest gift a human
>being can possibly be offered, eternal life. My image of Jesus
>is that while he recognised worldly political affairs
>(encouraged payment of taxes) he never allowed himself to be
>party to the conflicts that were rife in his society. He
>mingled freely with Romans, samaritans and tax collectors.
>clearly, He felt His mission was way above those conflicts.
>
>So back to Israel. Can cChristians cheer a slaughter?
My take on this question is NO. That is not What the Love that Jesus taught means. But then again what can I say. I have often said that modern Christianity is very wanting. Christianity is no longer guided by the bible but by what is heard from pulpits. Sometimes these pulpits teach profanities thinking that they are doing God a service. Am not surprised that Christians will back slaugheter.