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>So what if Satan quotes the scriptures? Even if he does quote
>the scriptures, he is saying exactly what’s in the scriptures.
>So the point is, if something that’s quoted is BAD, it’s not
>because Satan quoted it, it’s because that thing is BAD. If
>Satan quotes the Bible saying that god accepted a human
>sacrifice, then that thing is bad, regardless of who quoted
>it.

Thank you for your illustration. So perfect. I think now you know that even your drunk saved friends are wrong.

>I asked you “do you think god killing innocent Egyptian kids
>was good or evil?” You totally ignored that question. That’s
>what I’d like answered.
>You then say god was killing “offenders”. Honestly, what did
>that Egyptian kid who was born 30 seconds before the angel of
>death struck do to deserve to die? What was his offence? God
>was so angry he even killed the first born males of every
>BEAST in Egypt, from a random scorpion chilling in the desert
>to some crocodiles basking in the Nile. What did they do
>wrong? Why don’t you just admit that god does kill innocent
>people and animals, and he punished Peter for what Paul did?

I will put it to you this way ATlian. You are not God and neither is HE you. God is all knowing and before he took that action of Judging Mizriam and her gods he must have foreseen the future of her Children(they would follow suit in their parent’s ways). Deut 12:12. Just incase you did not get what I was saying earlier, let me say this if you read the bible very well you will find that vengeance is mine(God’s), thou says the Lord. God was avenging his chosen Firstborn child for the troubles that Jacob had gone through in the hands of Pharaoh’s terrible reign. You know very well that mkuki kwa nguruwe, kwa mwanadamu kichungu. Think about Jacob having to get rid of the children coz of Pharaoh’s paranoia that some day they will be outnumbered. Why do you feel pain for Mizriam when the Lord is doing the same to them? You find it easier for your tongue to curse God for his righteous ways than to distaste Egypt’s evil dids against Israel.

Then again I will take you forward to the ten Commandments. Exodus 20:3,4,5 “Thou shalt have no other gods before me... Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth…Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.. And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.” Then go to Exodus 12:12 Where God says, “I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.”

After reading that then you can definitely see that God is greater all other gods. Remember that Pharaoh had earlier on asked Moses arrogantly.. “Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go.” Exodus 5:2 By killing all the firstborns in Egypt the Lord revealed himself as God of all creation and that no other god supercedes Him. In that way He God judged the false gods of Egypt. The statue was unable to raise Pharaoh’s child and therefore proved worthless and gives no life. Instead it is made by human hands. Is like God telling Egypt lets see if your gods can stand against ME.

>Actually I’m not. I’m just against you Christians saying that
>god is good and that he only punishes the bad and protects his
>innocents, especially children who he loves dearly – and then
>when god kills innocent children, you quickly say that it’s
>his prerogative to kill whoever he wishes since he created
>them, even these children who he loves dearly, and we
>shouldn’t question him for doing it. WTF?

God loves not only Children but also you and I. For that Christ came.

>This thing of always exonerating god even when he does an
>obviously f*cked up thing and offering contradicting views on
>god just to make him look good based on the current
>circumstances is what I’m against. I think killing innocent
>kids is wrong, especially as a punishment for their father’s
>sins. If even man with his limited knowledge knows that and
>his laws hold that, then I’d assume that god in his infinite
>knowledge should know that too.

Unfortunately that way you and I think is so different from God that you always end up thinking God is silly while in the actual sense you who is who is exhibiting idiocy. Nobody is exonerating God we only say what his word says.

>I actually feel sorry for believers because they have to
>defend god no matter how f*cked up his actions are. I’m sure
>even you wonder what the hell god was thinking when he did
>some things in the Bible, but you are too scared to question
>in case a ball of fire consumes you. That’s the freedom that
>comes about from not believing – I can call a spade a spade,
>and not a big spoon.

I tell you one thing. Jesus came and freed me long time ago I don’t know what you mean by saying am scared yet am a free person. You should feel sorry for yourself ATlian and not pity those who have made a good choice of following Christ. After all you are Godless. This means you stand alone.

>What about when he punishes innocent kids? Do I then have a
>right to criticize him?

Atlian you don’t understand the bible that’s one thing I have noticed about you. That’s why you always question God’s wisdom. I once told you that reading copying and pasting does you no good. These are matters of the Spirit. If you really look and such with sincerity in the name of the Lord you will be granted the light.